Re: Alvin Mitchell is a Bearcat

[dfairchild]

Pete,

I believe you make my point and again said little close to nothing.

You rave about the great job Mick has done recruiting, yet some how neglect
to mention anything about the players in the recruiting class.  It seems
that those two things should some how go together.

In your subsequent post about point guards , you suggest we don't have a
problem.  You say, "Warren- steady ball-handler with low turnovers."  Are
you on crack?  He had 72 turnovers with only 97 assists a 1.3 ratio.  Taron
Barker in his senior year had 140 assists and 49 turnovers.  Vaughn had 73
turnovers and only 106 assists.

Further, Vaughn was a 75% free throw shooter; Warren was 60%!  When the
score is close and we are late in the game, who is going to handle the ball
when the other team has to foul?

I know, it takes a little bit of work to look up the stats and actually
think, especially when they don't really support what you want to believe.

I agree, there were times when Vaughn demonstrated he could dribble
penetrate.  He also passes well.  He was used primarily at the 2 guard this
season.  It is hard to know how well he would do handling the point for a
full 30-35 minutes.

I'll wait to see Henry play the point before commenting on him.  From what I
read, he is a wing player (one article mention DerMarr Johnson, others have
said James White).

Again, given the recent conversations about recruiting and point guards, and
the importance of good point guard play for tournament success, it's my
opinion, we do not have a solid court general in the fold or even on the
horizon.

Go Cats!
DF




-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of pete lyness
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:53 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Alvin Mitchell is a Bearcat


Mr. Fairchild,
My apologies for not posting up to your standards. You
asked what makes this recruiting class "great"?... and
I say nothing. I never said this was a great
recruiting class but that Cronin once again did a
great job recruiting. There is a difference. He has
been recruiting to an absolute mess of a program for
the last two seasons and has been able to somehow pull
solid recruits out of nowhere. With the past two
recruiting classes... Cronin has eased the painful
rebuilding process and restored hope to many Bearcat
fans. Please... and I'm sure you will... point out any
flaws in my reasoning.

Pete
--- dfairchild <address@hidden> wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Thanx for the cheer.  Now could you put a little
> substance to your post?
>
> What are you expectations?  How does this recruiting
> class exceed them?
>
> What makes this recruiting class "great"?
>
> It's odd because I see more questions than answers.
> Given the two greatest
> needs - a 5 and a pg, this class comes up empty so
> far.
>
> > From what I read, it is not clear that everyone in
> this class will be suited
> up come Midnight Madness.
>
> So given those expectations - 1) we would recruit to
> meet needs and 2) we
> recruit players who will be good student athletes,
> it is not clear how good
> this class is or will be.
>
> Finally, before you shift the debate - note, I did
> not say anything about
> Cronin's ability to recruit.  The focus of this
> thread is the class that we
> have.  So, let's leave aside any distracting
> responses, and focus on the
> quality of the class.
>
> I look forward to your constructive, well reasoned,
> and substantial
> response.
>
> Some say that I'm a downer, I think this
> demonstrates I'm an optimist.
>
> Go Cats!
> DF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of
> pete lyness
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:51 PM
> To: UC Basketball Forum
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Alvin Mitchell is a
> Bearcat
>
>
> Once again.... Mick Cronin has gone above and beyond
> my expectations. He did an amazing job putting
> together a competitive team this year and is now
> putting the finishing touches on another great
> recruiting job. There aren't many young, beginning
> head coaches out there that could have recruited to
> a
> decimated program the way Cronin has been able.
> --- address@hidden wrote:
>
> > Six players are scheduled to return next year,
> with
> > Williams and Hrycaniuk added, for a total of
> eight.
> > That leaves five available scholarships, given
> that
> > everyone returns.  Three are already spoken for by
> > signees (Belton, Bishop & Davis).
> >
> > On his final radio show Monday night, Mick said
> he'd
> > sign one, two, or possibly three, players during
> the
> > spring period.  He couldn't mention names, but
> Jason
> > Henry and now, apparently, Alvin Mitchell have
> > verballed.  That makes thirteen, given that Henry
> > and Mitchell actually sign on.
> >
> > The only way Mick could sign a third player
> (Anthony
> > McClain, perhaps?) would be if something happened
> in
> > regard to an existing scholarship holder or
> signee.
> > Who knows what that could turn out to be?
> >
> > Steve Wilson, Ed '72
> >
> > --
> > swilsonsp4
> > e-mail: address@hidden
> >
> > ---- Nathan Allen <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > A very good commit if he actually signs.  Two
> > questions:
> > > (1) Assuming Mitchell signs, do we have any more
> > scholarships to give for
> > > next year?
> > >
> > > (2) If not, any chance that Cronin will run
> > somebody off to make room for
> > > another signing?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/7/07, Holdheide, Brad
> <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> > > > Yes, he played one season in 1998/99 and was
> > integral in the win over
> > > > Duke with a huge 3-ptr with the clock running
> > down late in the game.  I
> > > > believe he left for personal family issues.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: address@hidden
> > > > [mailto:address@hidden On
> > Behalf Of DeJuan McGuire
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:44 PM
> > > > To: UC Basketball Forum
> > > > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Alvin Mitchell is
> a
> > Bearcat
> > > > Wasn't there another Alvin Mitchell who played
> > for UC in the late
> > > > 1990's? Anyone remember?
> > > >
> > > > DeJuan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---- Michael Ryan <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> > > > > A good source told me that Mitchell
> committed
> > today.
> > > > > I'll try to get more details later.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mike Ryan
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