Re: Time Warner is not the problem

[Justin Register]

I agree that the arena could use some work.  It was designed as a
multi-purpose facility, and isn't the best for basketball (open areas in the
corners are an example).  But Brad is right too.  This town is supposed to
be all about UC basketball, yet we can't get more than 11,000 people there
for more than a couple games/year.  It reminds me of Miami, FL football.
They are supposed to be a top team, yet no one goes to the games unless it
is Florida State.

We should be able to get more than 10,000, even to see Tennessee Tech, or
whoever.


On 10/3/06, Holdheide, Brad <address@hidden> wrote:
> 13,000 is not the problem.  The real problem lies with actually getting
> people to the games and selling out the arena.  Complain all you want
> about
> seating quality and such, Syracuse puts over 22,000 people in their arena
> every game and the nose bleed seats there are much worse than anything at
> UC.
>
> If UC sold out every game to average 13,176 that would put them 16th
> overall
> across the country and only behind 2 Big East teams, Syracuse and UConn
> (barely behind UConn).  A packed house of 13,000+ fans who are loud and
> raucous to go along with our practice facilities is more than enough to
> impress a top recruit.  But what we have is 11,000 fans who only get loud
> for 1 or 2 big games a year.
>
> I say the fans are to blame, not the arena.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Dan Marshall
> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:19 PM
> To: 'UC Basketball Forum'
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Time Warner is not the problem
>
> I realize the practice facilities are top notch... (although our guys
> should
> be in class not doing extra practice...)
>
> But still, if I'm a player... 13,000? 30,000?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Tom Carter
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 11:00 PM
> To: UC Basketball Forum
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Time Warner is not the problem
>
> I'm sorry to have to challenge your statement that we only have our 13,000
> plus multi-purpose facility,  having spent several hours touring "The
> Richard Lindner Center" I can tell you this facility is a world class
> facility and that 4 floors below the "green space" between the baseball
> field and Nippert is a full court basketball court facility that Mick
> loves
> and the kids will use regularly. This athletic facility is second to none,
> in or out of the big east!
>
> Bob was given a chance and we are better for it and we should stand by
> this team and coach Cronin and things might just work out!  Not without
> some
> hiccups to be sure, but with the thought that it's a new era and this
> team,
> head coach and the university should get our support! It has mine!
>
> Tom Carter, a bearcat fan since 1960!
>
> Dan Marshall <address@hidden> wrote:
> The point is this, you have to remember now we compete with all the other
> Big East teams for recruiting, before we only really competed with the
> CUSA
> teams for the Non All Americans... We barely won in that, now we compete
> with the big guys,
>
> I don't know how someone can think that a first year coach with a Small
> arena, and limited nat tv coverage can compete with Syracuse, UCONN,
> Louisville, et al.
>
> It doesn't make sense to say that we have an advantage... Before we had
> the
> advantage of being at the top of our league, the mid to bottom of the
> league
> will not get better recruits than the top of the CUSA... All the good ones
> will choose a Big East team that offers more.
>
> Also what "New 'physincilities' (I assume you mean facilities) Do we have
> for Basketball? It's the same 13,000+ Multi purpose arena.
>
> What's tiresome is blind optimism, I'm interested in a solution as well,
> but
> blind, ignore the facts optimism will not get us to a solution
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
> address@hidden
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Time Warner is not the problem
>
>
> In a message dated 9/28/2006 4:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> address@hidden writes:
>
> It's going to be a lot more difficult to "rebuild" in the Big east than it
> was in CUSA
>
>
> Disagree totally, new physicilities everywhere, one of the top 3
> basketball
> conferences in the country, good, young, well respected basketball coach
> that has proven for years he can recruit with anyone. I think he did well
> this year with a couple weeks to work with. In the next couple years he
> will
> bring in big time recruits.
> I hated what happened to Coach Huggins and thought for sure he would get
> an
> opportunity to coach in the Big East but, much of the off court problems
> (his and his players) were his responsibility. His removal for image
> problems is not a surprise to many in the know. The die-hard "we won't be
> sh--t without Huggins" and it's all Zimpher's fault is very tiresome.
>
> Logan