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Re: Sensible solution - was TW not the prob.



From: Brent Wyrick
Date: 01 Oct 2006 - 01:15 PM EST

The Big 12 and the Pac 10 both have a contract with FSN Southwest for
football and basketball.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Zahid Siddiqi
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:53 AM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Sensible solution - was TW not the prob.

Not to dispute your point, because it is valid. However, I have seen Kansas
State on TV many times on Fox Sports Network. The Big 12 must have a
contract with the Fox Sports Network. I'll grant you that they were likely
on TV due to their opponent, but it is not like they never were on TV before
Huggins.

Dan Marshall <address@hidden> wrote: I didn't want to mention the
name, But if you look at their TV schedule,
they have better coverage than us, those of you that said it had nothing to
do with Huggins, I just wanted to make that point, frankly I really hadn't
seen that school on TV before huggins went there.

"including a pair of regular season contests on ABC Sports "
"In addition, the Wildcats have been selected to appear twice on the ESPN
"Big Monday"
"In addition to the national telecasts, K-State will have nine regular
season games broadcast on ESPN Plus"


What scares me is that now cronin has to recruit to someplace that he can't
say "you will be seen regularly on national TV" which was a recruiting tool
used in the past. That couple with Richards comments on the future of our
recruiting (3 years from now) the shelf will be bare again... That does
scare me.

Again, this is the first year we will really feel the affect of the firing,
I'm afraid it's not going to be pretty.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of BZ Lob
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:49 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Sensible solution - was TW not the prob.

Hmmm.... could it be.....

K State?

--- Dan Marshall wrote:

"Four nationally-televised games, including a pair of regular season
contests on ABC Sports for the first time in school history" Guess
what team

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of richard l.
kandell
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:53 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Sensible solution - was TW not the prob.

Yes, it does, and it makes sense for more than just the "X" game -
They're building a sports bar right up the road from us in a brand new
shopping center - maybe they worked a deal with ESPN and they knew
they'd have a built in audience.

Richard K.

Geez, we finally have an off season where we aren't convulsed over gun
shots, dui's, or firings, etc., so I guess we have to have something
to bitch about. Look, if you were ESPN, or the BEast for that matter,
at this moment in time, why would you want to showcase UC?
In fact, they have 2
returning scholarship players, one of whom was a starter last year,
and the other doesn't really deserve a scholarship from a high level
Division 1 athletic standpoint. Otherwise you've got 11 assorted 1st
year mostly junior college players and some walk ons, and a first year
major college coach. This could be a dream season where the little
guy puts it all together and we wind up in the national championship
game - but from a neutral perspective it looks more like we finish
last or next to last in the toughest conference in the country. I can
live with a bad season, or even 2 (I've lived through a lot worse
supporting UC
basketball) but what really
scares the dickens out of me is looking at the roster and realizing
that 2 years from now we are right back in the same fix, with only 2
returning scholarship players who are on the current roster, 3 if Mike
Williams has an extra year. Worry more about that then whether this
year's game against UofL is on national tv. If Cronin doesn't have a
really successful recruiting year we are, indeed, up you know what
creek without a paddle.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Wyrick"
To: "'UC Basketball Forum'"

Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Sensible solution - was TW not the prob.


Ok, since I'm out of town I see it like this. TW
vs ESPNU vs. whoever
doesn't matter to me. I have basic cable service
that's pre wired to my
Apt.
complex so I don't get any of it. (It's actually
DISH basic forced through
the cable wiring)

My solution for watching the Cats from the middle
of Texas and a
reasonable
solution for everyone here is GO TO A BAR with
satellite service. Suck up
the cost of some overpriced beer and fattening
food and save yourself a
lot
of money and time in switching, installation, and
etc. fees.

Make sense?


-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf
Of Bryan Sherman
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 5:26 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] time warner not the
problem

*sigh*

From my perspective, national means that it is
accessible to the vast
majority of the naional audience. the 5 I
mentioned are available to the
vast majority. It could even be argued ESPN
doesn't qualify since you need
cable or satelite to get that, but heck, I will
give you that since there
aren't a ton of folks with just over the air
(though I know a number of
folks that stick to the old aerial).

ESPN2 is not on basic cable on TW, not sure about
Dish/DirectTV. You have
to
have the sports package. ESPNU is not even carried
by some systems (I
don't
*think* TW is the only system spurning ESPNU).
Therefore folks *may* need
to
do something proactively (change to a different
source, buy a supplemental
package...).

SO, let me propose a middle ground. From an
*Access* perspective, it looks
like UC has 10 National games. By that I mean a
fan from anywhere in the
country can choose to pay to get access to 10
games. great.

From an *Exposure* perspective, we have 1
national game. Anyone with
access
to CBS can watch one game this year.

Bottom line, it sucks, it is worse than it has
been in years, and I hope
that this too will soon pass... :-)

On 9/28/06, address@hidden
wrote:

Seems to me if you are anywhere in the country
with a dish and can pick
up
the feed it would be a national game.














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