Re: As if the cats haven't been through enough . . .

From: Dan Marshall
Date: 28 Sep 2006 - 03:47 PM EST

Keith... If we when coach Cronin gets us back winning we will be on the real
ESPN and I don't want to pay for ESPNU... No matter what if they add it to
the standard package you WILL still pay for it, they will raise the standard
package cost... Why would I want Time warner to add it, I'm not calling
them.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Keith Wedinger
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:29 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through enough . .
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And when Coach Cronin and his staff have the team winning lots of games once
again (which I firmly believe will happen), UC will be back on national TV.
In the meantime, call your cable operators and ask for ESPNU.

On 9/28/06, Dan Marshall <address@hidden> wrote:

Frankly,

I don't blame time Warner... It's a cover... Who do I Blame...
Zimpher. The
Enquirer tried to blame Time Warner, but think about it... If Huggins
were here would we be on the THIRD tier of ESPN for this match up?
NO, we wouldn't.

The idea that subscribers or Time Warner would change there line up
based on ONE game, or a few games is ridiculous, not only are there
not that many sports fans to warrant charging EVERYONE for the
channel, it is also crazy to think that everyone should have to pay
for it when they won't even watch it.

Again... When it all went down, everyone said everything would be the
same.
I Firmly believe that if Huggins were here, and we didn't have a team
of Jucos, they would be putting this game on Rivalry week on one of
the main two ESPN Channels. The paper is trying to make it look like
Time Warner's Fault or ESPN's fault. If our market had a big
draw(like the last 16
years)
they would have it on the Big market channels... ESPN or ESPNII.

The lack of coverage directly relates to the perceived quality of the
team.
Our coverage in the past was directly related to the success of the team.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of
address@hidden
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:24 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through enough .
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This is my last word on the subject:

There is a James Glassman article in the Wall Street Journal about
this exact thing.

It is a subscription on the website, but if you get the Journal it is
very interesting.

A quick summery: In California Schwarzenegger is expected to sign a
bill allowing cable companies to be able to get operation approval to
remove monopolies. Cable rates have been increasing 7.8% annually.
Congress has been on the bandwagon with many state bills including
California (total of 101-11 vote), Kansas, South Carolina. In Texas
22% changed providers and are saving 22.3 per month.

None of this will be available in Ohio by the Shootout, but hopefully
in the future it will be cheaper and there will be better programming.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Zahid Siddiqi
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:12 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through enough .
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Time Warner has no competition where I live. There is no other cable
television provider. I suspect that this is as big a factor in many
markets. Why should it carry certain channels if there is no real
threat to lose customers? I used to use DirecTV but was dissatisfied
with the loss of signal during rainstorms. If I had another choice, I
would switch in a heartbeat.

address@hidden wrote: BS or not it sounds like they are
willing to give up their customers who take advantage of more optional
services for more low end customers. Dish, DirecTV, etc. focus more on
the high end customers and that is why I like them more. I really
think the only reason so many people are using cable is Roadrunner
being easier to use. I don't have a phone at home so DSL is not cost
effective and Dish or Direct TV has not figured it out yet.

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From: address@hidden on behalf of Justin Register
Sent: Thu 9/28/2006 11:04 AM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through enough .
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Everything about TW has always been BS. I would switch in a heartbeat
if I hadn't fought my way to a great price last year. Switching would
raise my bill a ton, but it may be worth it.....stick it to the Man.

On 9/28/06, Mick Bergman wrote:

Yet somehow Dish, DirecTV, Comcast, and other providers find a way
to

do

it without raising their costs...

As I said, that is total BS.

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From: address@hidden on behalf of
address@hidden
Sent: Thu 9/28/2006 10:57 AM
To: address@hidden; address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through

enough .

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I spoke to a friend at Warner. They are reluctant to offer extra
channels, HD, etc. because so few of their customers use the services.

From what I understand the agreement with the supplier of

the

regional services makes Warner offer it everywhere or nowhere. They

have

found that the costs from carrying the extra features in low income

areas

outweigh the income gained from carrying it in more affluent areas

that are

more likely to subscribe to ESPN U, more HD channels, etc.

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From: address@hidden on behalf of

address@hidden

Sent: Thu 9/28/2006 10:55 AM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through

enough .

. .

I called Time Warner to talk to them about not having ESPNU. The
woman

I

spoke to told me that it was 'under negociation'...to which I told
her

they

better get it done or they'd have a lot of pissed off fans in cincy

come the

shootout and that I would change my service if they don't.....If
they

get

flooded with phone calls maybe something will happen....
So call them and complain 513-469-1145 or 513-469-1112 and tell

everyone

you know to do so!

----- Original Message -----
From: Mick Bergman
Date: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:58 am
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] As if the cats haven't been through

enough .

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To: UC Basketball Forum

That may be true, but somehow Dish, DirecTV, and other cable

providers

are able to come to an agreement on carriage and still charge less
than Time Warner is currently charging customers. I pay $20 less a
month than I paid to Time Warner and now I have NFL Network HD,
ESPN2HD, and a bunch of other HD channels. I also get a lot more
regular channels than I ever had with Time Warner. Honestly, after

the

profits that Time Warner has shown over the past few years, they

could

stand to eat the cost of ESPNU and ESPN2HD without a big problem.

On 9/28/06, Bryan Sherman wrote:

Not a Time Warner fan. but enough blame to go around. It seems

reasonable to

make ESPNU part of the sports tier, but ESPN is holding out for

it to be

part of the basic lineup. Seems kind of a ridiculous requirement

on ESPNs

part.

So i blame them both, and we get to suffer b/c of their pissing

contest.>

On 9/28/06, Keith Wedinger wrote:

Blame Time Warner. They seem to be VERY slow with regards to

adding new

channels. I am close to switching away from them so I can get

ESPNU and

the
NFL Network.

--
Keith Wedinger
Bearcatnews.com
Sciotofootball.com

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