Re: Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team

[dfairchild]

Kenneth -

Fair point about last year's team not being on the schedule. Unfortunately,
I assume you are conceding that it is unlike that this coming year's team
will be as good as last year's team.

Last year's team was 8-8 in the Big East and lost in the first round of the
BE tourney.

To finish better than last year, the 13 teams UC played last year and will
play again this year must get worse.

Hmmm - not sounding too realistic.

Finally to answer your question directly - "I again challenge anyone to look
at the rosters of the BEast and tell me
which teams will be better than the CATS?"

Georgetown - from the Sporting News:
Georgetown: The stage for Roy Hibbert to leave appeared to be set in the
NCAA Tournament. The 7-foot-2, 280-pounder played the best basketball of his
career in the Big Dance, proving to be a big defensive force while leading
the Hoyas to the Sweet 16. Despite his performance, the giant decided to
return. So did rising junior power forward Jeff Green. Those decisions could
ultimately mean a Big East title for John Thompson III. Most of the league's
other top teams are losing their marquee players -- Connecticut, West
Virginia and Syracuse -- and Thompson landed a great recruiting class -- one
that includes top-50 forwards DaJuan Summers and Vernon Macklin.

Go Cats!
DF



-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Kenneth Wilson
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:28 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team


Nice post.  But last year's team is not on this year's schedule.

K-dub


> From: "dfairchild" <address@hidden>
> Reply-To: UC Basketball Forum <address@hidden>
> To: "UC Basketball Forum" <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 07:48:25 -0400
>
> Kenneth Wilson wrote - "I again challenge anyone to look at the rosters of
> the BEast and tell me
> which teams will be better than the CATS?"
>
> Before I go comparing our roster to other BE teams, I'll compare it to last
> years team.
>
> PG - Devon Downey - who will out play him?
> SG - Armein/Jihad - who brings the experience they had?
> SF - White - do we have a NBA prospect with 4 years of experience?
> PF - Hicks - enough said
> PF - McGowan - he's back, but without Hicks beside him
>
> Every year, one of the good discussions of the forum is about the
> "questions" going into the season.
>
> Last year, there were several - PG, C, would Armein step up, how Andy would
> respond, etc.
>
> This year - there are many, many more -
> I look forward to seeing how it all unfolds - but I'm with Beiner - I'll be
> estatic with a NIT appearance.
>
> A while back I made a post asking what our expectations of Mick should be -
> about the only one to respond was Mike Thomas - a BE championship within 5
> years.
>
> What do others think?
> What are the measures - BE championship, NCAA berth, deep run (Elite 8 or
> better), NC Championship and in what time frame?
>
> Go Cats!
> DF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Kenneth Wilson
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:11 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
>
>
> Mick's task is much more difficult than Andy's.  Andy had talent, if not
> depth.  Andy had 4-seniors plus Cedric and Devon (throw in Tilford, Allen,
> and the walk-ons).  Andy had undeniable talent to include at least one NBA
> player and.  Mick has Cedric, Allen, and Tilford to start.  It's impossible
> to project what Andy would have done had he been delt the same recruiting
> hand.  Mick has been extrordinary!
>
> I again challenge anyone to look at the rosters of the BEast and tell me
> which teams will be better than the CATS?
>
> Fear of being disappointed is a terrible reason not to dream.  Like I tell
> my corporate team - "aspire to be extrordinary!"  I think Andy gets that.
> With the exception of Fortson, he is the only coach who was able to recruit
> 5-star talent to UC in conference USA.  Flint, Wingfield, and Jerome Harper
> don't count.  OSU botched the recruitment of Flint and nobody else wanted
> Wingfield and Harper (Micky-D's with criminal baggage).
>
> Here's my projection: 20 wins, top-7 or > Big East finish, they beat OSU
> and
> Egg-zavier, NCAA tournament.  I'll save this email and repost in March
> '07...Don't wait to get excited about this team - GO CATS!
>
> K-dub
>
>
> > From: "jon breiner" <address@hidden>
> > Reply-To: UC Basketball Forum <address@hidden>
> > To: "UC Basketball Forum" <address@hidden>
> > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:41:27 -0400
> >
> > I am not changing my "wishlist".  If UC makes it into the NIT that will
> be
> > quite a feat.  The schedule might be easier this year than last, but not
> by
> > much, and this year's team would lose to last year's team.  I am not
> > tempering my enthusiasm, I am letting it build to heights I feel
> > comfortable with.  If I expect 25-6 and get 15-15, I will be very
> > disappointed.  But since I expected the worst earlier (like immediately
> > after AK's injury last year) and have simply been hoping this year's team
> > can be .500, I will stick to that.  If they achieve more, great, but I do
> > not expect this team to be in the NCAA tourney next year.  if they are, I
> > would say Mick's coaching job was as good as Andy's last year.  Better in
> > some respects, but no one (likely) will ever have more difficult
> > extenuating circumstances than Andy had, so his success was truly
> > remarkable.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <address@hidden>
> > To: <address@hidden>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 7/5/2006 9:37:16 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > address@hidden writes:
> > >
> > > You can  temper your enthusiasm if you like.  I choose not to.  I'm
> > > expecting
> > >
> > > big things...NOW
> > >
> > >
> > > My little boy was really excited when he saw his first new bike. Jumping
> > > all
> > > over the place. But when he found out he didn't know how to ride it he
> > > wasn't very happy. Don
>
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