Re: Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team

[Saffell, Charles J MM1 NAVSUBSCOL]

06-07-BE tourney
07-08-NIT/NCAA bubble team
08-09-NCAA

Anything less than this will be unacceptable, anything more would be
outstanding.  Unfortunately a lot of people have very high expectations
for next season's team already.  I expect to lose some games in the
non-coneference schedule that we would normally chalk up as wins before
the teams ever hit the court.  It will be interesting to see some people
go into meltdown mode when we lose to a directional school.    

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of dfairchild
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:48
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team

Kenneth Wilson wrote - "I again challenge anyone to look at the rosters
of the BEast and tell me which teams will be better than the CATS?"

Before I go comparing our roster to other BE teams, I'll compare it to
last years team.

PG - Devon Downey - who will out play him?
SG - Armein/Jihad - who brings the experience they had?
SF - White - do we have a NBA prospect with 4 years of experience?
PF - Hicks - enough said
PF - McGowan - he's back, but without Hicks beside him

Every year, one of the good discussions of the forum is about the
"questions" going into the season.

Last year, there were several - PG, C, would Armein step up, how Andy
would respond, etc.

This year - there are many, many more -
I look forward to seeing how it all unfolds - but I'm with Beiner - I'll
be estatic with a NIT appearance.

A while back I made a post asking what our expectations of Mick should
be - about the only one to respond was Mike Thomas - a BE championship
within 5 years.

What do others think?
What are the measures - BE championship, NCAA berth, deep run (Elite 8
or better), NC Championship and in what time frame?

Go Cats!
DF

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Kenneth Wilson
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:11 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team


Mick's task is much more difficult than Andy's.  Andy had talent, if not
depth.  Andy had 4-seniors plus Cedric and Devon (throw in Tilford,
Allen, and the walk-ons).  Andy had undeniable talent to include at
least one NBA player and.  Mick has Cedric, Allen, and Tilford to start.
It's impossible to project what Andy would have done had he been delt
the same recruiting hand.  Mick has been extrordinary!

I again challenge anyone to look at the rosters of the BEast and tell me
which teams will be better than the CATS?

Fear of being disappointed is a terrible reason not to dream.  Like I
tell my corporate team - "aspire to be extrordinary!"  I think Andy gets
that.
With the exception of Fortson, he is the only coach who was able to
recruit 5-star talent to UC in conference USA.  Flint, Wingfield, and
Jerome Harper don't count.  OSU botched the recruitment of Flint and
nobody else wanted Wingfield and Harper (Micky-D's with criminal
baggage).

Here's my projection: 20 wins, top-7 or > Big East finish, they beat OSU
and Egg-zavier, NCAA tournament.  I'll save this email and repost in
March '07...Don't wait to get excited about this team - GO CATS!

K-dub


> From: "jon breiner" <address@hidden>
> Reply-To: UC Basketball Forum <address@hidden>
> To: "UC Basketball Forum" <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:41:27 -0400
>
> I am not changing my "wishlist".  If UC makes it into the NIT that will

> be quite a feat.  The schedule might be easier this year than last, but

> not by much, and this year's team would lose to last year's team.  I am

> not tempering my enthusiasm, I am letting it build to heights I feel 
> comfortable with.  If I expect 25-6 and get 15-15, I will be very 
> disappointed.  But since I expected the worst earlier (like immediately

> after AK's injury last year) and have simply been hoping this year's 
> team can be .500, I will stick to that.  If they achieve more, great, 
> but I do not expect this team to be in the NCAA tourney next year.  if 
> they are, I would say Mick's coaching job was as good as Andy's last 
> year.  Better in some respects, but no one (likely) will ever have more

> difficult extenuating circumstances than Andy had, so his success was 
> truly remarkable.
>
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Dare to expect BIG THINGS from this team
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/5/2006 9:37:16 AM Central Standard Time, 
> > address@hidden writes:
> >
> > You can  temper your enthusiasm if you like.  I choose not to.  I'm 
> > expecting
> >
> > big things...NOW
> >
> >
> > My little boy was really excited when he saw his first new bike. 
> > Jumping all over the place. But when he found out he didn't know how 
> > to ride it he wasn't very happy. Don

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