Re: if Downey does leave

From: bearheel
Date: 02 Apr 2006 - 08:42 PM EST

If I were Downey, I'd be waiting to see what Mick's recruiting looks like. If he can manage something reasonably similar to the prospects on the recruiting list, then Downey can see a pretty good future here.

If Mick recruits well and Downey still leaves, then I'll bet it's not a basketball reason but something else (grades? a girlfriend? southern cooking?)

I think it's reasonable to assume that Mick is recruiting the returnees pretty hard, but his big selling point to them may be who he's able to bring in to play with them.

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dave Malaska" <address@hidden>

I dunno. I'm not ready to write Downey off just yet. Mick's got some
recruiting to do in his own back yard, now. And he's gotta recruit
STRONG. I'm going to take Devan at his word that's he's just keeping
options open (maybe it's pollyanna of me, but... there it is).

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Brent Wyrick
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:42 PM
To: 'UC Basketball Forum'
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] if Downey does leave

I believe the ship is now officially sinking. If Downey chooses to leave
,which seems very likely, you're now left with a very unhappy Cedric
McGowan who has no place to go and an unhappier Abdul Herrera who now
has no
one left that he originally came to play for.

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Adam Osterholt
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:02 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] if Downey does leave

http://ucbearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040206aaa.html

Here is the official word from UC about Downey.......

Not good.

Adam

On 4/2/06, address@hidden wrote:

It's more than difficult to gauge how well we'll do before the roster

is

set - it's impossible! For example, what if we got the 2006 players

on

Mike's recruiting list to add to our current roster? In addition to

Gentry

and Williamson (#10 JC player), we'd have Bobby Maze, Hernol Hall (#4

JC

player), and Tyler Smith (#3 prep player this year, and top 10

(pre-season)

HS player last year)? The newcomers alone would make a pretty good

starting

lineup! With good coaching they could gel by tournament time and be a
threat to anyone.

Or, our current roster could all defect and Mick's new recruits could

turn

out to have less talent and poor attitudes. Then the team could

really

suck.

I think I'll wait for more (hopefully positive) recruiting and

retention

news!

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "dfairchild"

Al,

I think it is a little difficult to gauge how we will do before the

roster

is set (as well as other teams), but I have to say 8-8 is overly

optimistic,

especially if Downey, Herrara and McGowen all leave.

Below are the teams for the BE games next year with my guesstimate

and

last

year's result. I can see no sure wins, 1 likely win, 4 likely

losses,

and

11 sure losses. So, overly pessimistic would be 0-16, pessimistic

2-14,

realistic 3-13, optimistic 5-11, overly optimistic 8-8, crazy - any

winning

record.

I'm curious which 8 teams you would project us beating and why? Here

are

the only 5 games I think we even a small chance of winning.

The only likely win is against Seton Hall at home - SH will have a

new

coach, game will be at home, team was poorly coached this year - may

be

hard

to correct poor play. They me as disheartened as our team will be at

the

end of a losing season.

Likely losses (but possible surprise wins)
Rutgers (they will have a new coach, but they have decent talent and

played

hard this past year)
South Florida (couldn't win this year, but game will be on their

court

and

we won't have a full roster of Div 1 talent)
DePaul (was one of the weaker teams in the conference this year, but

it

will

be Wainwright's 2nd year, Wainwright is a good coach - not sure

about

how

good he is as a recruiter, at their place),
Providence (one of the weaker teams in the conference this year,

game

will

be at their place).

@ DePaul - likely loss (w)
Marquette - loss (w)
UConn - loss (l)
@ Syracuse - loss (w)
@ Rutgers - loss (w)
Louisville - loss (w)
Georgetown - loss (l)
@ South Florida likely loss (w)
West Virginia - loss (w)
@ Louisville - loss (l)
Pittsburgh - loss (l)
Syracuse - loss (l)
@ Providence - likely loss (w)
@ Villanova - loss (l)
Seton Hall - likely win (l)
@ West Virginia - loss (l)

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Al Uhrig
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:27 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] if Downey does leave

Overly pessimistic in my opinion, even if Downey, Herrara, and

McGowen

leave I am of the opinion that next year the team finishes 1 or 2

games

above .500. Mick will bring in enough JUCO talent to have a winning
season, the non-conference schedule is Miami (US Bank) , Xavier

(home),

UAB (home), Memphis (away), Ohio State (neutral) set, the other 5

will

be buy wins at the Shoe, 8-8 in the Big East.

<<<<<<<> Date: 02 Apr 2006 - 01:57 PM EST

I look for McGowen and Herara to leave also. I know everyone thinks

it

would
be a huge mistake for McGowen to leave with only one year of

eligibility

left but I think I would leave rather than play on a 7 win team. I

say 7

wins cause I think if Downey leaves we go from 10 wins down to 7.

Downey leaving adds another year to the rebuilding process. A top

level

point guard atracts big men and spot up shooters to a program. Also

a

good
point guard takes a lot of the pressure off a coach to make all the
decisions.>>>>>>>>>>

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