Re: if Downey does leave

[Brent Wyrick]

I believe the ship is now officially sinking. If Downey chooses to leave
,which seems very likely,  you're now left with a very unhappy Cedric
McGowan who has no place to go and an unhappier Abdul Herrera who now has no
one left that he originally came to play for. 


-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden
[mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Adam Osterholt
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:02 PM
To: UC Basketball Forum
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] if Downey does leave

http://ucbearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/040206aaa.html

Here is the official word from UC about Downey.......

Not good.

Adam


On 4/2/06, address@hidden <address@hidden> wrote:
> It's more than difficult to gauge how well we'll do before the roster is
> set - it's impossible!  For example, what if we got the 2006 players on
> Mike's recruiting list to add to our current roster?  In addition to
Gentry
> and Williamson (#10 JC player), we'd have Bobby Maze, Hernol Hall (#4 JC
> player), and Tyler Smith (#3 prep player this year, and top 10
(pre-season)
> HS player last year)?  The newcomers alone would make a pretty good
starting
> lineup!  With good coaching they could gel by tournament time and be a
> threat to anyone.
>
> Or, our current roster could all defect and Mick's new recruits could turn
> out to have less talent and poor attitudes.  Then the team could really
> suck.
>
> I think I'll wait for more (hopefully positive) recruiting and retention
> news!
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "dfairchild" <address@hidden>
>
> > Al,
> >
> > I think it is a little difficult to gauge how we will do before the
> roster
> > is set (as well as other teams), but I have to say 8-8 is overly
> optimistic,
> > especially if Downey, Herrara and McGowen all leave.
> >
> > Below are the teams for the BE games next year with my guesstimate and
> last
> > year's result. I can see no sure wins, 1 likely win, 4 likely losses,
> and
> > 11 sure losses. So, overly pessimistic would be 0-16, pessimistic 2-14,
> > realistic 3-13, optimistic 5-11, overly optimistic 8-8, crazy - any
> winning
> > record.
> >
> > I'm curious which 8 teams you would project us beating and why? Here are
> > the only 5 games I think we even a small chance of winning.
> >
> > The only likely win is against Seton Hall at home - SH will have a new
> > coach, game will be at home, team was poorly coached this year - may be
> hard
> > to correct poor play. They me as disheartened as our team will be at the
> > end of a losing season.
> >
> > Likely losses (but possible surprise wins)
> > Rutgers (they will have a new coach, but they have decent talent and
> played
> > hard this past year)
> > South Florida (couldn't win this year, but game will be on their court
> and
> > we won't have a full roster of Div 1 talent)
> > DePaul (was one of the weaker teams in the conference this year, but it
> will
> > be Wainwright's 2nd year, Wainwright is a good coach - not sure about
> how
> > good he is as a recruiter, at their place),
> > Providence (one of the weaker teams in the conference this year, game
> will
> > be at their place).
> >
> > @ DePaul - likely loss (w)
> > Marquette - loss (w)
> > UConn - loss (l)
> > @ Syracuse - loss (w)
> > @ Rutgers - loss (w)
> > Louisville - loss (w)
> > Georgetown - loss (l)
> > @ South Florida likely loss (w)
> > West Virginia - loss (w)
> > @ Louisville - loss (l)
> > Pittsburgh - loss (l)
> > Syracuse - loss (l)
> > @ Providence - likely loss (w)
> > @ Villanova - loss (l)
> > Seton Hall - likely win (l)
> > @ West Virginia - loss (l)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: address@hidden
> > [mailto:address@hidden Behalf Of Al Uhrig
> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:27 PM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] if Downey does leave
> >
> >
> > Overly pessimistic in my opinion, even if Downey, Herrara, and McGowen
> > leave I am of the opinion that next year the team finishes 1 or 2 games
> > above .500. Mick will bring in enough JUCO talent to have a winning
> > season, the non-conference schedule is Miami (US Bank) , Xavier (home),
> > UAB (home), Memphis (away), Ohio State (neutral) set, the other 5 will
> > be buy wins at the Shoe, 8-8 in the Big East.
> >
> >
> >
> > <<<<<<<> Date: 02 Apr 2006 - 01:57 PM EST
> >
> >
> > I look for McGowen and Herara to leave also. I know everyone thinks it
> > would
> > be a huge mistake for McGowen to leave with only one year of eligibility
> > left but I think I would leave rather than play on a 7 win team. I say 7
> > wins cause I think if Downey leaves we go from 10 wins down to 7.
> >
> > Downey leaving adds another year to the rebuilding process. A top level
> > point guard atracts big men and spot up shooters to a program. Also a
> > good
> > point guard takes a lot of the pressure off a coach to make all the
> > decisions.>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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