RE: Not as bad is it seems

[Saffell, Charles J MM1 NAVSUBSCOL]

If head to head is even, it goes to record vs. common opponents from the top of the standings down.  UConn beat WVU and Nova lost to them.

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From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35
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Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems


Since I know you can answer this in less than half the time it takes me to look it up:
 
Why would UConn get the #1 over Villanova?  I assume it has to do with who they lost to in their other game?  I know UConn lost to MU and I think Villanova lost to WVU.  So if UC beats WVU, MU finishes higher?  Is that it?
 
Jon
 
 

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From: Shinkle, Randy <mailto:address@hidden>  
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems

Syracuse would be the 7 seed if they beat DePaul tomorrow and Villanova Sunday, and Seton Hall loses to Pittsburgh Friday.  That leaves Seton Hall as the 8 seed and UC as the 9 (if UC beats WVU, and probably even if UC loses).  I'd definitely prefer this, since I can more easily see UC winning the rematch with Seton Hall (to go 5-0 in rematches, with a win Saturday) than the rubber game with Syracuse.
 
If UConn beats USF and Louisville they should be the 1 seed, so by the time Villanova faces Syracuse they may not have anything significant to play for.  I think we need to be rooting for Syracuse.
 
Randy '78
 

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From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems


What need to happen to have Syracuse get 7th and UC to play Seton Hall in the 8 v. 9 game?  Since Seton Hall beat both teams, I am guessing it cannot happen.  If UC could play and beat SH in the tourney, UC should and would go to the NCAA over SH.  (in that case you cannot discount the following:
 
- UC lost at SH, but won on a neutral court.
- SH's (by far!) easier Big East schedule.
- UC's better RPI and SOS
 
A win on Sat. would go a long way though!
 
Jon
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Aaron  <mailto:address@hidden> Laflin 
To: address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems

Randy,
 
I can't disagree with anything you said, I just was stating there is a chance they still get in but I don't think the Cats want to take their chances on losing the last four games of the year.  More than likely the cats will play SH or SYR in the 1st round of the Big East Tourney which once again would be a must win game, if they don't find a way to beat  WV this Saturday.  
 
I'm still not sure why Syracuse's spot is secure in the tournament and the Cats are a bubble team according to so called experts.  UC still has a better resume than Syracuse,  Cuse has only 2 top 50 wins and 6 top 100 wins.  Syr lost to SH by 7pts on their home court, split w/ UC, and they just lost to Georgetown by 15pts and moved only 1 spot or stayed the same on the RPI.  UC lost to a team on the road (granted they should have beat them by 8 - 10 pts) but it was still on the road and they dropped 7 spots.
 
Aaron 96

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From: Shinkle,  <mailto:address@hidden> Randy 
To: address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems

I disagree.  UC has now let 2 "golden opportunities" slip by, and Saturday will be a third straight chance unless West Virginia comes out hot and blows them out.  Don't think the selection committee won't notice, RPI and SOS notwithstanding.
 
Since UC beat Marquette to go 13-2 (and, yes, since Kirkland's injury), they are 5-9, 1-7 away from 5th/3rd Arena.  IMO, that's not good enough.  Losses in their next 2 leaves them 18-13 overall, 4-6 in their last 10.  Again, not good enough.  I guess there's a slim chance they'd still make it in, with so many other bubble teams that could flounder, but they wouldn't deserve it.
 
Of course, I didn't think they deserved it in '03 either, when they finished 4-8 (0-6 away from home) after starting 13-3.  The difference is those 4 wins included #11 Oklahoma State and #4 Louisville.
 
They have to win Saturday.
 
Randy '78
 


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From: Aaron Laflin [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems


Agree.  One more win will definitely get them in, they let a golden oppurtunity slip by but another win will help them get in.  There is a still a chance they get in if they lose the next two but they'll be sweating out Selection Sunday with all of us UC fans.
 
Go Cats
 
Aaron 96

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Al  <mailto:address@hidden> Uhrig 
To: address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:20 AM
Subject: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems


While last night's loss was discouraging, the Bearcats NCAA tourney hopes are very much alive and well. After the loss the Bearcats RPI is # 33, SOS is # 4, still NCAA tourney material. The Bearcats have clinched a spot in the Big East Tourney, Rutgers plays St. John's so one of them must lose their 10th Conference game. A win vs West Virginia or a first round Big East tourney win clinches a spot in the NCAA tourney, and the RPI will probably be in the 30's even if they should lose the next two games.