RE: Not as bad is it seems

[Shinkle, Randy]

If UConn and Villanova tie, UConn wins the tiebreaker based on beating
WVU, who beat Villanova.  That is, unless Marquette ends up tied with
WVU, which could lead to a coin flip, except if Pittsburgh joins the
tie, which (I think) would swing it back to UConn, who beat Pittsburgh.
 
If you need a definite answer today, just remember:  You're the one with
the PhD.
 
Randy '78
 

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From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems


Since I know you can answer this in less than half the time it takes me
to look it up:
 
Why would UConn get the #1 over Villanova?  I assume it has to do with
who they lost to in their other game?  I know UConn lost to MU and I
think Villanova lost to WVU.  So if UC beats WVU, MU finishes higher?
Is that it?
 
Jon
 
 

	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: Shinkle, Randy <mailto:address@hidden>  
	To: address@hidden 
	Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:28 AM
	Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems

	Syracuse would be the 7 seed if they beat DePaul tomorrow and
Villanova Sunday, and Seton Hall loses to Pittsburgh Friday.  That
leaves Seton Hall as the 8 seed and UC as the 9 (if UC beats WVU, and
probably even if UC loses).  I'd definitely prefer this, since I can
more easily see UC winning the rematch with Seton Hall (to go 5-0 in
rematches, with a win Saturday) than the rubber game with Syracuse.
	 
	If UConn beats USF and Louisville they should be the 1 seed, so
by the time Villanova faces Syracuse they may not have anything
significant to play for.  I think we need to be rooting for Syracuse.
	 
	Randy '78
	 

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	From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden 
	Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:18 AM
	To: address@hidden
	Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems
	
	
	What need to happen to have Syracuse get 7th and UC to play
Seton Hall in the 8 v. 9 game?  Since Seton Hall beat both teams, I am
guessing it cannot happen.  If UC could play and beat SH in the tourney,
UC should and would go to the NCAA over SH.  (in that case you cannot
discount the following:
	 
	- UC lost at SH, but won on a neutral court.
	- SH's (by far!) easier Big East schedule.
	- UC's better RPI and SOS
	 
	A win on Sat. would go a long way though!
	 
	Jon
	 
	 

		----- Original Message ----- 
		From: Aaron Laflin <mailto:address@hidden>  
		To: address@hidden 
		Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:43 AM
		Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it seems

		Randy,
		 
		I can't disagree with anything you said, I just was
stating there is a chance they still get in but I don't think the Cats
want to take their chances on losing the last four games of the year.
More than likely the cats will play SH or SYR in the 1st round of the
Big East Tourney which once again would be a must win game, if they
don't find a way to beat  WV this Saturday.  
		 
		I'm still not sure why Syracuse's spot is secure in the
tournament and the Cats are a bubble team according to so called
experts.  UC still has a better resume than Syracuse,  Cuse has only 2
top 50 wins and 6 top 100 wins.  Syr lost to SH by 7pts on their home
court, split w/ UC, and they just lost to Georgetown by 15pts and moved
only 1 spot or stayed the same on the RPI.  UC lost to a team on the
road (granted they should have beat them by 8 - 10 pts) but it was still
on the road and they dropped 7 spots.
		 
		Aaron 96

			----- Original Message ----- 
			From: Shinkle, Randy <mailto:address@hidden>  
			To: address@hidden 
			Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:02 AM
			Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it
seems

			I disagree.  UC has now let 2 "golden
opportunities" slip by, and Saturday will be a third straight chance
unless West Virginia comes out hot and blows them out.  Don't think the
selection committee won't notice, RPI and SOS notwithstanding.
			 
			Since UC beat Marquette to go 13-2 (and, yes,
since Kirkland's injury), they are 5-9, 1-7 away from 5th/3rd Arena.
IMO, that's not good enough.  Losses in their next 2 leaves them 18-13
overall, 4-6 in their last 10.  Again, not good enough.  I guess there's
a slim chance they'd still make it in, with so many other bubble teams
that could flounder, but they wouldn't deserve it.
			 
			Of course, I didn't think they deserved it in
'03 either, when they finished 4-8 (0-6 away from home) after starting
13-3.  The difference is those 4 wins included #11 Oklahoma State and #4
Louisville.
			 
			They have to win Saturday.
			 
			Randy '78
			 
			
			
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			From: Aaron Laflin
[mailto:address@hidden 
			Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:40 AM
			To: address@hidden
			Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is it
seems
			
			
			Agree.  One more win will definitely get them
in, they let a golden oppurtunity slip by but another win will help them
get in.  There is a still a chance they get in if they lose the next two
but they'll be sweating out Selection Sunday with all of us UC fans.
			 
			Go Cats
			 
			Aaron 96

				----- Original Message ----- 
				From: Al Uhrig
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				To: address@hidden 
				Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:20 AM
				Subject: [UC Basketball] Not as bad is
it seems


				While last night's loss was
discouraging, the Bearcats NCAA tourney hopes are very much alive and
well. After the loss the Bearcats RPI is # 33, SOS is # 4, still NCAA
tourney material. The Bearcats have clinched a spot in the Big East
Tourney, Rutgers plays St. John's so one of them must lose their 10th
Conference game. A win vs West Virginia or a first round Big East
tourney win clinches a spot in the NCAA tourney, and the RPI will
probably be in the 30's even if they should lose the next two games.