Re: Does NZ like press, good or bad?

[jon breiner]

First my guess is the based on the increase of revenues from the Big East, the budget can stay the same without having to dip into the general fund.  Secondly, I don't think they CAN dip into the general fund (but I don't know for sure).  The main budget issue is the increased funding is not coming in, but I'd imagine the budgets for last year and next year will at least be roughly similar.

Third, the "95%" media time the basketball team gets matters about 1% in the scheme of things.  Admittedly, I thought it meant more, but I am coming to realize the overall dollars the UC Foundation gets and the placements in the US News and World Report rankings etc. matter 95%.  There are billions of dollars out there for UC to try and lay claim to based solely on academics.  How much for basketball is there?  It is not even close.

Finally, your final comment "you get to watch a losing team, so you're just throwing your money away."  I am not sure where your logic is coming from.  Are you saying that you cannot pay to watch a losing team and "get your money's worth"?  While I much prefer a winning team, I have backed the Bearcats during losing seasons before and I will again.  I became a fan during the 70's, I was at the coliseum for many of the games during the 3-25 year in 83, and at many games during Huggins wonderful era.  I will continue to be in there in the future and for me, I'd argue spending my money otherwise would be a waste (i.e. - throwing it away).  You once told me that any time anyone feels their money was well spent, it is a good deal for them (regardless of whether others agree).  That was not just a sales pitch was it?  :)

I am glad I did not have to make a UCATS decision within 24 hours of hearing of Huggins firing as I would definitely have pulled my money.  But time and further thought have made me remember and realize that I am a Bearcat, and while I am not happy with what happened, I AM A BEARCAT!  Nancy will be gone someday, Huggins is gone, and someday I will be gone, but until then, I AM A BEARCAT!  :)

Jon


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Marshall 
  To: address@hidden 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:45 AM
  Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Does NZ like press, good or bad?


  "The state of the basketball program will have absolutely 0% impact on Darth Z
  and her continued employment at UC"

  0%?  Actually it has at least 2%, and probably more like 4 or 5% chance... the athletic budget is about 2%, and with the lost revenue, the athletic dept will need money from the general fund... so I would say more like 4% chance...  

  although, our basketball program gets us about 95% of our national media time, and is constantly pointing out our downfall...

  other than 4% You're right though...

  that said, then one could argue, that anyone showing up at the games has 0% chance of changing the situation, and you get to watch a losing team, so you're just throwing your money away.



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  From: Mike Brungs [mailto:address@hidden 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:49 AM
  To: address@hidden
  Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Does NZ like press, good or bad?


  I hate to TOTALLY disagree with folks but... While I understand that to all of us
  on this forum, the state of basketball program is near and dear to us all.  It IS
  afterall a basketball forum.  However, you are absolutely fooling yourself if you
  think the basketball program is THAT important to everyone else and to the
  administration !

  The state of the basketball program will have absolutely 0% impact on Darth Z
  and her continued employment at UC.  I wish that were not the case but it is.
  She is not some rogue loose cannon acting on her own.  She has the backing
  of the BOT who are obviously blessing her moves.. not just in the athletic area
  but with the University as a whole.

  I know it stings that what we value most, our basketball program, is being destroyed
  before our very eyes but while this is a HUGE deal to us, realize that it is NOT
  such a big deal to others... OBVIOUSLY.  They see the basketball program is just
  a SMALL piece of the university, deserving no more attention than other aspects
  of the university.

  Again... it sucks for all of us because this is OUR baby that they are dumping on,
  but to continue to think that this will have ANY impact on Darth Z is fantasy.  I
  wish that were not the case but sadly, as long as the BOT is behind her....



  Craig Bickel <address@hidden> wrote:
    .and that will lead to even more missing revenue from the basketball program next year.
     

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    From: Bob Fancher [mailto:address@hidden 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:49 AM
    To: address@hidden
    Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Does NZ like press, good or bad?
     
    Missing the NCAA, missing the NIT, and missing the BEast tournament are ALL PROBABLE. No mystery there.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Brad Esterman 
      To: address@hidden 
      Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:20 PM
      Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Does NZ like press, good or bad?
       
      It will be interesting to see how things play out over the next few months.  If we miss the NCAA's, which looks probable, things could get very ugly for the administration.   Zimpher's contract is up in 2007, if we flop this year, and win 10 games or less next year (which also looks probable) there is a real possibility her contract won't be renewed. 
       
      I guess it all comes down to the hiring of the next head coach.   One would think if Nancy & Pals screw this up she is on her way out the door.

       
      On 1/30/06, Shawn Hunter <address@hidden> wrote: 
      At least the media (i.e. Bill Koch) has also started to place blame where blame is due (although not directly).  From Sunday's Enquirer: 
      Don't blame Kennedy, his staff or the players for the state of UC basketball. They're simply trying to hold together a virtually impossible situation. 
      Blame the power struggle between UC president Nancy Zimpher and former head coach Bob Huggins that has left this program in a shambles during its first season in the Big East Conference. 
       
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