Re: stop scheduling DAYTON and MIAMI ?

From: Bearcat Tom
Date: 01 Jan 2006 - 12:23 PM EST

The Catholic basketball league has been rumored now for 20 years. It almost always comes from fans of schools on the outside (A-10) looking in.

Tom

From: "Joseph Massarelli" <address@hidden>
Reply-To: address@hidden
To: <address@hidden>,<address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] stop scheduling DAYTON and MIAMI ?
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:28:36 -0500

I had not heard any rumors nationally about UD and XU joining the big
East. A couple years ago the local papers kept saying that UC, UD, and
XU might be joining the Big East. But at that same time all the
national media never mentioned UD and XU. So I basically disregarded
the local articles saying UD and XU might be headed to the Big East.

So was the recent 1 for 1 series with UD strictly a result of UC
leaving the Great Midwest?

Joe

>>> address@hidden 12/29/05 10:16 AM >>>
Don't look for the Dayton series to be renewed. If it is I fully
expect it to be at least a 2 for 1 instead of the current home and
home (due to the Great Midwest breakup).

I enjoyed the Miami game if for nothing else to get retribution for
the football beatdown they put on us this year. They also are UC's
oldest rivalry, therefore I'd hate to see that game go away.

As far as Xavier, they are the biggest rivalry on the schedule. They
are also a good program that seems to continue to grow. Rumors keep
flying that UD and Xavier will join up with the basketball only
schools of the Big East in a few years (after a breakup from the
football schools), so I fully expect Xavier to become a big name team
around the country.

I would hate to see UC drop these games, but I think the Dayton series
is on its way out, unfortunately. I don't see Miami or Xavier going
anywhere any time soon.

Mick

On 12/29/05, Joseph Massarelli <address@hidden>
wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if we are going to continue to schedule Dayton,
Miami,
> and Xavier every year in Men's Basketball? I have heard that since
UC
> is now in the Big east, that these games might be removed from the
> schedule in the future.
>
> I for one, would LOVE to see these games removed from the schedule.
As
> a die-hard UC fan, these type of rivalry are very, very frustrating.
> They seem to always be a "everything to lose, nothing to gain" type
of
> game. The opponent is always so fired up to beat UC. Meanwhile UC
and
> their fans don't seem to care much, unless they lost to that
particular
> team recently. If UC wins, I simply feel relief, not joy. Relief
that
> I will not have to feel the shame for an entire year and hear about
it.
>
>
> If these series were canceled only the Xavier, Miami, and Dayton
alumni
> would complain. UC alum, I think, would rather see games vs. almost
> anyone else. I think Memphis, Charlotte, UAB, maybe Ohio State could
be
> good replacement games. Even more games vs. schools like LSU or
Vandy
> would be fine too.
> XU plays Illinois at US Bank arena next year. Why is UC playing
Miami
> there?
>
> Maybe I am wrong, how do you as UC fans feel about this types of
games?
>
>
> It is hard to understand how Ohio State almost never plays anyone
> in-state in basketball. But they at least have protected their
alumni
> from the shame of losing to local schools that have lesser
basketball
> programs. Look at UK, they only seem to have rivalries with power
> conference teams (Indiana, UL, UNC).
>
> I know that Xavier, Dayton, and Miami all have good basketball
programs
> with decent RPI rankings. But I think there are plenty of other
equal
> options available which provide much less risk. Besides the Dayton
and
> Miami games were removed from the schedule briefly a few years ago.
>
> Hopefully at least these games can become home games-only for UC.
> Similar to OSU in football, except for the games at Paul Brown
stadium.
> They (XU, MU, and UD) certainly should want to play UC more than UC
> wants to play them.
>
> Early next year will be a struggle for UC with all the players they
are
> going to lose and other changes. Let's look at the likely schedule
in
> Nov-Dec:
>
> at Dayton (probably Nov.)
> vs. OU in Cleveland (Dec.6?)
> vs. OSU in Indy (Keep this one every year)
> vs. Miami at US Bank arena (late Dec.)
> XU (probably in Jan-Feb)
>
> Most likely UC will lose all or most of these games. All Ohio
schools
> seem to hate UC and love to beat UC and laugh at us their fans. So
get
> ready. UC for some reason loves to give them all every chance to do
> this?
>
> Please if you feel as I do, email call the new AD Mike Thomas and
all
> assoc./assistant AD's and let them know. Maybe they will make some
> changes.
>
>
> Joe
>

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