RE: RE: Huggs and our Next Coach

[Bearcat Fan]

Even funnier that UC's budget is being cut every year, whic is putting huge strain on each college and department. So 2.5% is a huge number considering college's are taking cuts in the millions and doing everything to cut corners. One college took out every 4th lightbulb to reduce energy costs. 

Brad Holdheide <address@hidden> wrote:  The athletic budget constitiutes only 2.5% of the total budget and was up to this year self-sustaining. And basketball itself is even a smaller portion. So my guess is Nancy figures that basketball is creating a negative image for the entire university therefore she can improve the overall image by only risking 2.5% of the budget. And the improved image can bring in additional endowments that may well exceed the few dollars lost from the Huggins fiasco. In addition it is possible that if athletics stops being self-sustaining at it's current budget NZ could just lower the athletic budget and she hasn't lost a thing.

Funny thing about athletics is they can define a University while only being a very small portion of the University.


> > > address@hidden 11/16/2005 3:10:29 PM >>>
I don't think it's about the people for sports at all. What they are
interested in is large government and corporate grants and donations into
academic research departments. That's where the money is in academics, right
Jon?. This is one reason why the Dean of the College of Medicine changed.
They brought in someone who could restructure the dept. for research and
fundraising. The dept already had the academics and teaching reputation. 

I really don't think attendance at basketball or football is even on the top
10 list for this administration. They want more cash flow for the academics
side of the fence. 

The Athletic Dept is supposed to be self sufficient. It's their job to fix
the attendance. Mike Thomas got handed a bag a rocks to work with on this
one but this is one of the reasons why I don't think staying away from games
really hurts anyone except the athletic dept. itself and in turn the
athletes. But, after all, they didn't cause this mess. 

I tend to agree with Oscar when he said the Athletic Dept. should have
handled this and the administration should have stayed out of it. They
really are two separate financial entities and should have been treated as
such. Mike Thomas should have been the one to fire Huggins and that's only
because we know Bob Goin wouldn't do it. Bob probably should have gotten one
more year until Thomas was hired and settled and then have been let go at
that point after the season. This would have solved a lot of problems and
cost the university less in severance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mick Bergman [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:48 PM
To: address@hidden 
Subject: Re: RE: [UC Basketball] Huggs and our Next Coach

If they find that they are not getting donations to the athletic
department or school in the numbers they must have I'm willing to bet
the board of trustees sacrifice her. From day 1 I told some friends
she would probably get rid of Huggins, but after a year or two of
being way down in donations to the school they will sacrifice her in
order to attempt to bring the people back.

On 11/16/05, Brent Wyrick wrote:
> I don't think Z is likely to leave any time before her state mandated
> retirement date or before the UC/21 project is finished (What was the
> timeline again?). This means about 5 years I think. And let's face it,
> Steger stuck around for years without being nearly as visible as Z has
been
> up to this point even before the Huggins fiasco.
>
>
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> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:44 PM
> To: address@hidden 
> Subject: Re: RE: [UC Basketball] Huggs and our Next Coach
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> Now this is a possible improvement on prior attempts to communicate with
DZ
> and the BOT. It could help, certainly won't hurt.
>
> Also, since DZ is cancelling so many engagements to appear, apparantly the
> booing is having an impact. I hope we can keep it up till she decides
that
> leaving is her best choice.
>
> Bill Bates
> Bearcat Boxers
> 5532 Dry Run Rd.
> Milford, OH 45150
> 513-404-4647
>
> address@hidden 
> www.bearcatboxers.com 
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Zahid Siddiqi 
>
> Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:37 pm
>
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Huggs and our Next Coach
>
> > As you know, UC is a state institution. In Ohio, all State
> > entities are subject to the Ohio Public Records Act. Any and all
> > letters received by the board or Dr. Z are public record. Copy
> > the local media outlets with your letters to them. It may cause
> > the media to inquire further into how many letters were received
> > and what those letters said. UC could only ignore letters for so
> > long once the media was aware it was receivng them.
> >
> >
> > Zahid H. Siddiqi
> > Attorney at Law
> > 58 East High St., Ste. B
> > London, OH 43140
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