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RE: talking basketball
From: Dan Marshall
Date: 02 Nov 2005 - 11:06 AM EST
Date: 02 Nov 2005 - 11:06 AM EST
I think he will be a difference maker... one way or the other.
He does have that BBall player Build, and his shot looked good(in the 10
sec' he was on the news)
I'm just really curious why he was where he was if he was really skilled
enough to play at this level... (I know it's possible for sure... but still)
If anything at least he can take up some space, and probably has more skills
that Souly.
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From: Brock Schweitzer [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:42 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] talking basketball
I think one person everyone is going to overlook is Allen. I just think
he's got a lot of potential. He has reasonable size and just looks like a
ball player. I don't know what his attitude is like, but I would expect him
to be very motivated following all he's been through and to get an
opportunity like this would be a huge motivation.
He's travelled (excuse the pun), and I think he's got a lot to bring to the
team. That being said, he's banging against Hicks every day in practice,
which can only make you a better player. I haven't seen any of the
practices, so those who have seen him practice can comment, but with Hicks
being a leader this year, I would imagine he'd want the other big guys to
produce and would certainly push him.
The odds of UC landing a big man after all that has happened at the time it
did almost seems like destiny, so I'm going to keep a close eye on how Allen
performs, and I recommend everyone else do the same.
On 11/1/05, address@hidden < address@hidden
<mailto:address@hidden> > wrote:
I'll step up to the plate (sorry, free throw line) on playing time at least:
20 minutes for Downey instead of 10, with that time mostly coming from
Tilford. I'm guessing Downey is ready for the big time but Tilford isn't.
(I don't think the distinction between point guard and 2 guard will be a big
one this year and expect whoever gets it will be pushing it down court. I'd
expect White, Moore, Kirkland or Downey to be getting us into our half court
offense, depending on who's in the game and what the defense is giving us.)
8 minutes for Herrera (I'm an optimist), with that time coming from Coleman.
Except when fouls (or free throw percentages) cause a problem or against the
weaker teams on our schedule, I'd expect Coach Kennedy would want to have
two of the following (Hicks, McGowan, Herrera and Allen) in the line-up
together. Coleman may be skilled, but muscle and height in at least two
players will be crucial in the Big East.
My sense is that this will be a breakout year for Kirkland - he'll think
less and play more instinctively without Huggins' pressure on him, but he'll
still have those defensive skills Huggins demanded.
Despite the negativities and the uncertainties, I think this year we'll
surprise the forecasters who have said 7th-9th in the Big East: the
motivation to do well to honor Huggins and the motivation to do well in
order to get a job (the seniors + the coaches) or a transfer opportunity
(the non-seniors, if the new coach doesn't look appealing) will be powerful
factors. That said, this would not have been an easy year for UC, even with
everybody back and all our recruits in place, so expecting better than 4-6
in the Big East would have been unrealistic...
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It's odd - people say they want to talk about the team, basketball, the
season, etc - but when I posted about this years rotations - no one
responded . . .
Since I have to say it - the post was pretty good - so I'm going to repost
some of the info:
The upcoming season 3 big questions and one lingering one -
BIG
1) Who will handle the point?
2) Who will get the 40 minutes at the 5 position?
3) How will a first year head coach do?
Lingering
1) Will Kirkland play to his potential?
The Bearcats do not nearly look as good as they did last May - since then
we've lost Vincent Banks, Roy Bright, Tyree Evans, Ivan Johnson and coach
Huggins!
This years projected rotation -
Point - White 15, Moore 10, Downey 10, Jihad 5
2 guard - Jihad 23, Kirkland 5, Tilford 12
3 forward - White 17, Kirkland 17, Coleman 6
4 forward - Hicks 20, Kirkland 10 Coleman 10
5 forward - McGowan 20, Hicks 12, Allen 8 (Herrera if he gets cleared will
get at lease these 8 minutes)assumes
Hicks 32
White 32
Kirkland 32
Muhammed 28
McGowan 20
Coleman 16
Tilford 10
Moore 10
Downey 10
Allen 8
To be honest, I can't figure out the front line - the above scenario
Kirkland will be willing to play in the four spot - a huge assumption andit
still remains to be seen if Kirkland can come prepared to play everynight.
The other alternatives are to get more minutes out of McGowan and Allen or
Herrera if he gets cleared to play.
For what it is worth - here's my last year's prediction and (actual):
Maxiell 33 (31)
Hicks 32 (31)
White 30 (29)
Kirkland 30 (25)
Moore 25 (15)
Williams 20 (22)
Muhammad 15 (26)
Banks 5 (0)
Bright 5 (14)
Souleyman 5 (1)
Lucas (12)
Patswald (3)
Meeker (2)
Murray (2)
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