Re: Martin

[Justin Tubbs]

Weak draft or no weak draft, Kenyon's stats, all-star appearance and NBA Finals appearances speak for themselves.  I think that with him healthy and after the run that the Nugs made last year they are going to be contender's this season. I hope that we see the real Jared this college basketball season.  We all saw the real Jared on the bearcat forum podium last week whining and complaining.
 
Jared Garth <address@hidden> wrote:





martin, swift,miles,fizer, miller,johnson ,mihm, crawford,przybilla,dooling, mosio,thomas,alexander,cleeves  

I would say rather weak

 

I hope we do see the real Keyon on the court, we saw the real kenyon on the podium last week.





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From:  Justin Tubbs <address@hidden>
Reply-To:  address@hidden
To:  address@hidden, old school <address@hidden>
Subject:  Re: [UC Basketball] Martin
Date:  Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:40:07 -0700 (PDT)


There is a great article posted on the bearcatnews website that is a great read.  I guess we will see the real Kenyon this year.  Huggs will prolly also follow the team with two possible three former players on the roster.  The 2000 draft might have been weak but we had 2 of the top 6 picks, and they are both on Denver.  

old school <address@hidden> wrote: 
How is he a disappointment as a pro? He's only been in the league for 4 years and has been to the NBA finals 2 of those years, that's hardly a disappointment. He still has a LONG time left in his career and Denver is starting to make moves to put themselves into the NBA finals in the near future. How about giving the guy some time to have a career FIRST before you label him as a bust.

Tell me this, if Twyman had been a role-player in the League do you think his number still should have been retired? Colleges retiring numbers base that retirement on what the player does at that school, not in the NBA. If this would have been a player under any other coach then Huggins you would not have this big of a problem with it, that's become painfully obvious over the past few months.


On 10/5/05, Jared Garth <address@hidden> wrote: 






did you read all of my reply. Martin was #1 I don't deny and a great tool, but a disappointment as a pro.






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From:  old school <address@hidden>
Reply-To:  old school < address@hidden>
To:  Jared Garth <address@hidden>
CC:   address@hidden
Subject:  Re: [UC Basketball] Martin
Date:  Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:47:04 -0400 




So basically you're contradicting yourself. Being player of the year 

and the first overall pick in the draft is bringing glory to your 

school. There is no better recruiting tool out there then a coach being 

able to tell a recruit "Look what we did for Kenyon Martin. He was not 

a top10 recruit coming out and we were able to mold him into a player 

of the year and #1 pick". Most kids join a high-major program like UC 

for one reason, to make it to the NBA, 99% of them could really care 

less about a degree if they're going to be a lottery pick when they 

leave school.


On 10/5/05, Jared Garth < address@hidden> wrote: 






Not exactly, what I said basically in the many posts was today's 

heroes are soon forgotten. Yes I did say the wall should be used for 

HOFers who brought glory back to the school. True Kmart was player of 

the year, first overall pick ( in a very weak draft), but what has he 

done since then. 






 




I can see honoring him for his college contributions actually, but 


if he keeps bad mouthing the school, let him take his jersey and sell 

it on e-bay, since that is what he seems to be about. 






I also don't like D. Johnson's bad mouthing UC. I hold nothing 


agaisnt him for 1 and done, since many go to college to have a career. 

Good for him, he became wealthy. I just think he should respect the 

school. 








 













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From:  old school < address@hidden 

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Reply-To:  old school <address@hidden>
To:   

address@hidden
Subject:  Re: [UC Basketball] Martin
Date:  Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:03:10 -0400 















So what you're saying is that a college players career should be judged on what he did in the NBA?













On 10/4/05, Jared Garth < 
address@hidden> wrote: 









I spoke to many people in jersey about martin who 
only know him from his years with the Nets, not his college 



acheivements. They all agreed that he was a bust as a first overall. I 



mean you would expect the first overall to have made more than one 



all-star team, been the MVP of his own team once and to win a 



championship. KMart will never make the HOF. Fortson puts up better rpg 



stats. 










 







Kmart is a decent player, but you would expect more out of an 
overall 1 besides his numerous tantrums ( Van Horn, R. jefferson and 



then Huggins). No wonder JKidd didn't save him in Jersey. 










 







Martin take your jersey and go home if UC means so little to you. 
I think maybe the jersey on the wall should be for Hall of famers 



anyways. 

























































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