Re: Martin

[old school]

How is he a disappointment as a pro? He's only been in the league for 4
years and has been to the NBA finals 2 of those years, that's hardly a
disappointment. He still has a LONG time left in his career and Denver is
starting to make moves to put themselves into the NBA finals in the near
future. How about giving the guy some time to have a career FIRST before you
label him as a bust.

Tell me this, if Twyman had been a role-player in the League do you think
his number still should have been retired? Colleges retiring numbers base
that retirement on what the player does at that school, not in the NBA. If
this would have been a player under any other coach then Huggins you would
not have this big of a problem with it, that's become painfully obvious over
the past few months.

On 10/5/05, Jared Garth <address@hidden> wrote:
> did you read all of my reply. Martin was #1 I don't deny and a great tool,
> but a disappointment as a pro.
>
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> From: *old school <address@hidden>*
> Reply-To: *old school <address@hidden>*
> To: *Jared Garth <address@hidden>*
> CC: address@hidden
> Subject: *Re: [UC Basketball] Martin*
> Date: *Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:47:04 -0400*
>
> So basically you're contradicting yourself. Being player of the year
> and the first overall pick in the draft is bringing glory to your
> school. There is no better recruiting tool out there then a coach being
> able to tell a recruit "Look what we did for Kenyon Martin. He was not
> a top10 recruit coming out and we were able to mold him into a player
> of the year and #1 pick". Most kids join a high-major program like UC
> for one reason, to make it to the NBA, 99% of them could really care
> less about a degree if they're going to be a lottery pick when they
> leave school.
>
> On 10/5/05, Jared Garth <address@hidden> wrote:
> >  Not exactly, what I said basically in the many posts was today's
> heroes are soon forgotten. Yes I did say the wall should be used for
> HOFers who brought glory back to the school. True Kmart was player of
> the year, first overall pick ( in a very weak draft), but what has he
> done since then.
>
>   I can see honoring him for his college contributions actually, but
> if he keeps bad mouthing the school, let him take his jersey and sell
> it on e-bay, since that is what he seems to be about.
>
>  I also don't like D. Johnson's bad mouthing UC. I hold nothing
> agaisnt him for 1 and done, since many go to college to have a career.
> Good for him, he became wealthy. I just think he should respect the
> school.
>
>
>
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>  From: *old school <address@hidden
> > *
> Reply-To: *old school <address@hidden>*
> To: *
> address@hidden
> Subject: *Re: [UC Basketball] Martin*
> Date: *Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:03:10 -0400*
>
>
> So what you're saying is that a college players career should be judged on
> what he did in the NBA?
>
>
>  On 10/4/05, Jared Garth < <address@hidden>
> address@hidden> wrote:
>
> >   I spoke to many people in jersey about martin who
> only know him from his years with the Nets, not his college
> acheivements. They all agreed that he was a bust as a first overall. I
> mean you would expect the first overall to have made more than one
> all-star team, been the MVP of his own team once and to win a
> championship. KMart will never make the HOF. Fortson puts up better rpg
> stats.
>      Kmart is a decent player, but you would expect more out of an
> overall 1 besides his numerous tantrums ( Van Horn, R. jefferson and
> then Huggins). No wonder JKidd didn't save him in Jersey.
>      Martin take your jersey and go home if UC means so little to you.
> I think maybe the jersey on the wall should be for Hall of famers
> anyways.