Re: More from the Z-types

[Bob Fancher]

I suspect Chris Desmakes retired....I think he'd be in his 60's........and
no, Richard I didn't expect much of an answer other than the ones I continue
to receive......I do like to continue my sniping however, and am happy to
share their inane responses.....Anyone who took Acctg 101 understands you
don't pay out $3M to someone who is not working, in addition to paying Andy
Kennedy, without looking silly........I'm also confident the $3M means
little to an administration which struggles with a budget nearing
$1B.....but as I said, I enjoy taking my shots even though it's a done
deal.....and although I still take pride in my degree, I will not support a
university in which the present board continues to govern.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "richard l. kandell" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] More from the Z-types


> Bob, did you really expect any different response?  No one can take issue
> with wanting to improve almost anything, least of all educational
> opportunity/standards.  But whether it is just Mrs. Z, or the University's
> PR department, they are doing a p___ poor job of explaining themselves.
You
> don't have to go around 6 corners and look under a garbage can cover to
draw
> the inference from what she says that degrees obtained BZ are not worth
the
> paper they are written on.  She doesn't even bother to just imply that any
> education obtained at UC BZ is something that you can't look anyone in the
> eye and be proud of - that is what she actually said (albeit in the
reverse)
> and that shows a complete disdain for education at UC BZ.  Maybe she is
> simply reflecting what she picked up in Columbus - but we don't really
need
> anyone coming in from Buckeye land and telling us that everything
> educational prior to the last 2 years, and the great Zimpher awakening, is
> fundamentally worthless.
>
> Just don't expect anyone at the university to agree that is what she said,

> even if it simply is.
>
> Richard K.
>
> PS - I note the name David Macejko as Executive Director of the Alumni
> Association - is that a recent change?  What happened to the chubby Greek
> who was there for years?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Fancher" <address@hidden>
> To: "bbforum" <address@hidden>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:06 AM
> Subject: [UC Basketball] More from the Z-types
>
>
> > Further crap from this administration.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <address@hidden>
> > To: <address@hidden>
> > Cc: <address@hidden>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Response to your UC is Listening Reference #1381.
> >
> >
> > Dear Bob,
> >
> > After accessing your e-mail from last week and I sought information that
> > spoke specifically to your concerns over the impact of the Huggins
> > separation arrangement on tuition. It is my understanding specifics have
> yet
> > to be determined. Employment agreements between UC employees and the UC
> > Administration are not part of our domain, so my comments in this area
are
> > speculative.
> >
> > First, we believe a significant portion of this expense is part of an
> > existing contract and would not be considered an extraordinary expense.
> This
> > expense  would be part of budgeted funds. Further, we believe any
> > compensation in excess of budgeted amounts would not have meaningful
> impact
> > on tuition costs.
> >
> > Your second area of concern affords a more concrete opportunity for
> > clarification. The quality of the education you and I received during
the
> > mid to late 60's has never been questioned by the UC Administration. The
> > message from UC, though largely misinterpreted, is that in today's
higher
> > education environment, for UC to remain viable and become a destination
> > point for the brightest and best students, we must aspire to improve on
> the
> > education we offered students in the past. I hope you will consider the
> > significant difference between aspiring to be better and the
> > misinterpretation of that goal as a condemnation of the past. Your
degree
> > and mine has served us well. UC wants to make that value as great as it
> can
> > be.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > David Macejko, Alumni Office,Exec Dir Alumni Affairs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> > Original Letter:
> >
> > Silly to increase tuition when we're paying a coach $3M to go away. What
> > other nonsense are we paying for which keeps tuition increasing at an
> > extraordinary rate? I paid $750 per year to receive what the current
> > administration feels is a mediocre degree in Bus. Ad. in 1965. I'm
> > embarassed by our administration. Find another institution to ruin.
> Please.
> >