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Re: Ivan Johnson commits to UC



From: Justin Berg
Date: 03 May 2005 - 06:00 PM EST

Ben Wallace did go to Virginia Union- I think the point the dude who mentioned him was making is that he went to a small school like where D-Harris goes and where I-Johnson went and he turned out to be an NBA All-Star

But right- if nothing else he is 6'11" so he should be able to contribute SOMETHING like just being an extra body (a la Alleyne but shorter) armed with 5 fouls and a big wingspan.

Not that it matters though...Hicks, Ced, Ivan, and Abdul is already more than twice the size we had downlow last year total.

Lou D'Ambrosia <address@hidden> wrote:
Am I missing something?? It says on Ben Wallace's NBA bio that he went to
Virginia Union which is D2 but not Tri-C in Cleveland?


From: old school
Reply-To: old school
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Ivan Johnson commits to UC
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:11:04 -0400

They produced Ben Wallace, so there must be some talent/coaching up there.
I
dont' believe in hyping/downplaying a kid due to stats, level of
competition, or what part of the country he's from. Until you see them play
with your own eyes you can't really judge them. But I'll take a 6'11" kid
that can run the floor, handle the ball, rebound, and score.

As much as everyone kept saying "I want a kid bigger then 6'7" it's amazing
to me how they turn it around as soon as UC lands one. Obviously the staff
likes his game and since he plays in the same league as Cincinnat State (2
former UC players on their coaching staff) they have some decent first hand
knowledge of his game and what he's capable of.

On 5/3/05, Lou D'Ambrosia wrote:

I grew up in the Cleveland area and played high school hoops before
going
to
school at UC. Let me say this, Tri-C or Cuyahoga Community College is
NOT
a
hotbed for Cleveland area talent. I wouldn't expect too much.

~Lou

From: old school
Reply-To: old school
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Ivan Johnson commits to UC
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:19:27 -0400

On 5/3/05, rj wrote:
Comparing stats could be apples & oranges.

1 is division II, the other is California.
The competition level doesnt always compare to regular juco ball.


As the Shamaine Dukes discussion is now starting to prove, what level
you play at doesn't always dictate the talent or ability of a certain
recruit. Harris is from Cleveland and I can't think of too many NJCAA
Div1 JUCO's in the Cleveland area. Chances are he wanted to stay close
to home to play his JUCO ball or it was just more convenient for him.





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