Re: Scholly, Souley or both

[Michael Ryan]

Without digging into the rules, I would imagine anyone living in the 
Cincinnati area could be considered a Cincinnati fan in the eyes of the 
NCAA. 

Unless, Sean Miller wants to volunteer. 

-- 
Mike Ryan



On Apr 2, 2005 2:34 PM, Brent Wyrick <address@hidden> wrote:
>  Well I think, and I'm not an expert either, is that none of what you 
> mentioned can come from someone associated with the university in any way. 
> Someone outside of the university would basically have to volunteer, from 
> out of the blue, to host him. Say for example, a family associated with a 
> religious charity who reads about him in the Enquirer. A lot of the host 
> families for high school students come from families with other kids in 
> Christian academies or from families who host exchange students on a regular 
> basis. The other option would be someone who emigrated from his own country 
> who makes enough here to pay his tuition. 
>
>  What you described below is almost the scenario that got OSU in trouble 
> with a player. The difference for them being that player was on scholarship 
> when it happened. Take Meeker or Patzwald as an example. The parents are 
> paying in-state tuition (or they're on academic scholarship) but it's not an 
> extra benefit. Ivy League players are essentially walk ons. There are no 
> scholarships there and they either pay full or partial tuitions. I'm not 
> sure where the line is but it's there somewhere. 
>
>  If Chris Duhon's mother can suddenly work for Duke University then Souley 
> can have a host family.
>  ------------------------------
>  
> *From:* dfairchild [mailto:address@hidden 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:37 PM
> *To:* address@hidden
> *Subject:* RE: [UC Basketball] Scholly, Souley or both
>  
>  I'm curious what your definition is of extra benefits?
>  
>   I believe housing a student would be considered extra benefits. I do not 
> know the NCAA regulations, but if all it took to avoid the extra benefits 
> restriction was to make the student a walk-on, then I think you could just 
> make all of your players walk-ons, and then set them up with housing, a 
> stipend (large enough to pay for tuition, books, etc), a car, . . . .
>  
>     -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Brent Wyrick [mailto:address@hidden
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:44 PM
> *To:* address@hidden
> *Subject:* [UC Basketball] Scholly, Souley or both
>
>  OK, since the general consensus is that Souleymane might be the odd man 
> out if 3 scholarships are open, here's a far fetched idea. Most African born 
> students and players that I've seen get here do it one of two ways: Families 
> with money back home or with the help of a host family in HS, scholarship or 
> both. (see Romain Sato) I suspect Souley's a pretty smart guy to get here in 
> the first place since.
>
>  So, what if we can find a host family to house him while he's in college? 
> It's a win for everyone. He comes off scholarship, stays on the team, gives 
> us a boost for the new APR, improves the team chemistry becuase the guys 
> love him and gives us a practice player and some small minutes later in life 
> .I don't think this is a NCAA violation because he'd become a walk on and 
> would not be receiving extra benefits. The university would probably prefer 
> that he stay for international diversity reasons. The fans? We get instant 
> Meeker for 3 years. Would this work?