Re: Re: Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial

[jon breiner]

How about if we say it is a bit like Oxford in that it is small, homey collegey type town, but very near a lot of large urban areas?

Are all of you happy we are not discussing the logo?  :)

Jon

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darryl Gilliam 
  To: address@hidden 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial


  I graduated from Duke in May'04 and I can tell you that while Durham may be an "urban" city, Duke is not in an urban environment

  address@hidden wrote: 
    Okay, I'll concede. You're right, I was speaking based mostly on stereotype, or personal perception. I would still be surprised if the campus was as "urban" (I'll put that one in quotes, lest anyone challenge my use of the word) as UC's though. Regardless, my main point was not to belittle the area of and surrounding Durham, more to say that kids who go to a school like Duke tend to be labeled good, smart kids, while kids that go to a school like cincy tend to be labeled thugs. 

    All apologies to any North Carolina natives or admirers who I may have offended with my generalizations :-) 
    > 
    > From: "Jared Garth" 
    > Date: 2005/03/31 Thu PM 11:07:01 GMT
    > To: address@hidden
    > Subject: Re: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > 
    > Durham is close to many places i.e Chapel Hill, raliegh. Like they consider 
    > newport Greater c. Durham isn't rural.
    > 
    > >From: 
    > >Reply-To: address@hidden
    > >To: 
    > >Subject: Re: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > >Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:09:42 +0000
    > >
    > >"Durham, NC, population 187,035 , is located in North Carolina's Durham 
    > >county, about 21.2 miles from Raleigh and 50.3 miles from Greensboro."
    > >
    > >Not exactly a booming metropolis though, huh?
    > >
    > > >
    > > > From: "Jared Garth" 
    > > > Date: 2005/03/31 Thu PM 09:50:29 GMT
    > > > To: address@hidden
    > > > Subject: Re: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > > >
    > > > Durham isn't so rural. Talk about sterotypes.
    > > >
    > > > >From: 
    > > > >Reply-To: address@hidden
    > > > >To: 
    > > > >Subject: Re: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > > > >Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:05:33 +0000
    > > > >
    > > > >I believe it came out in the last few years about the special program 
    > >that
    > > > >most of the Duke players take, in which they're virtually all passed
    > > > >regardless. I can't remember the name of it or any real specifics, 
    > >maybe
    > > > >some other forum members can. I would imagine it's true that they all
    > > > >obtain their degrees, but it's mostly just a technicality, as most of 
    > >the
    > > > >marquee players that attend Duke are really there to become 
    > >professional
    > > > >basketball players. Any assertion to the contrary is absurd. Do you
    > > > >really think Carlos Boozer achieved in the top academic percentiles in 
    > >high
    > > > >school?
    > > > >
    > > > >No, these two things are definitely related, in that a white-bred rural
    > > > >college is portrayed as infallible in the media when it comes to 
    > >graduation
    > > > >rates, and the coach deified, while an inner-city program like UC is
    > > > >villified in the national media for recruiting a lot of the same kids. 
    > >A
    > > > >thug goes to Duke and he's considered a great, stand-up kid, while a 
    > >bright
    > > > >young man goes to Cincy and instantly becomes one of Huggs' Thugs. 
    > >It's
    > > > >not to say that Coach K isn't a good coach and probably a good guy, but 
    > >the
    > > > >double standard is obvious.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > From: "richard l. kandell" 
    > > > > > Date: 2005/03/31 Thu PM 08:45:59 GMT
    > > > > > To: 
    > > > > > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > > > > >
    > > > > > And again I'll ask questions that I've postured before - with Duke
    > > > >claiming
    > > > > > to be one of THE outstanding (Ivy League quality) academic 
    > >institutions
    > > > >in
    > > > > > the country - How do they get to admit 20-25% of the McDonald AA's 
    > >every
    > > > > > year? If the "average" student admitted to Duke is in the top 1% of
    > > > >his/her
    > > > > > high school class does that mean that 20-25% of Mickey D AA's are 
    > >that
    > > > > > bright? If the graduation rate for men's basketball players (as now
    > > > > > suggested by the NCAA) at Duke is close to 100% does that mean that
    > > > >their
    > > > > > average basketball player has a combined SAT score of 1300+ in order 
    > >to
    > > > >have
    > > > > > the "smarts" to get through their classes? Or does it mean that the
    > > > >Duke
    > > > > > academic reputation is really a sham?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Richard K.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > > > > From: "Rocko Truth" 
    > > > > > To: 
    > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:37 PM
    > > > > > Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Coach K/Amex Recruiting Commercial
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > How many recruits Duke got from that Commercial? I'll answer that 
    > >for
    > > > >you,
    > > > > > > Zero. They had already filled their number of scholarships 
    > >available
    > > > >for
    > > > > > > next year, and filled them with mostly McDonalds All-Americans. 
    > >Just
    > > > >like
    > > > > > > they did last year and the year before that.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > 
    > 
    > 




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