Re: Scholarship cost

[richard l. kandell]

The longer one stays on the Forum the more likely he or she is to see the
same subjects come up over time.  On the last occasion we went into the
arcane subject of the "cost" of a scholarship we had accountants,
economists, members of the UC faculty, and us poor working slobs (at that
time I may still have been working) all debating the issue.  That said,
while I accept the fact that it costs a college or university something to
feed, outfit, coach, provide practice/game facilities, transport him/her to
games, and, if the dorms are otherwise completely full with a waiting list,
something in the way of room costs, etc.  What no one was ever able to
convince me of was that there is a cost for the school as to academics.  Not
a single class is added, not a single chair in any class, not a single
professor - if you want to argue lab fees, because the athlete may break a
test tube - OK - otherwise nada, nil, zippo!

The exchange of monies for tuition between the athletic department and the
rest of the school is an exchange of "funny money."  I don't really care how
the CPA's account for it on the school's books - that is, who gets credit
for the "revenue" from ticket sales after deducting "expenses", it "costs"
the school nothing from an academic standpoint - the buildings are there,
the teachers are there, etc., etc., whether Souley sits in them or not.
Without the basketball scholarship he's NOT there, and no one can tell me
that UC saves a nickel on the academic side from his absence, aside possibly
from some tutoring expense.

Richard K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Feeley" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Scholarship cost


> From what I understand, the athletic department pays the University
> for the tuition of each athlete under scholarship. It is "real"
> money. It does cost more for an out of state student than for an
> in-state one. Room and board are not cheap. Each flight to away games
> costs the price of a ticket per person.
>
> It isn't trivial, although I have no idea what the cost is overall.
>
> Joe
>
> --- bob <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > "cost" is a littl bit of a misnomer - The university isn't paying
> > anyone (well, maybe if it's Ohio State ;-) - so UC isn't out that
> > money - they're not refusing to admit some paying student to allow
> > the scholarship athlete to get in - traveling expenses aren't that
> > great for 1 more person - they're going there anyway - the cost is
> > fairly minimal really
> >
> > address@hidden wrote:So what does a basketball scholarship cost UC
> > per year? 40 to 50 grand? Im
> > including traveling with the team, flight and room etc. plus
> > everything else.
> > UC has one last scholarship to burn for next year and Im assuming
> > it will go
> > to a JC big man in the spring signing period. UC should have an
> > edge in that
> > anyone decent will get plenty of playing time. I think at this
> > point in time
> > Banks has at best a 50-50 chance of playing this year. UCs record
> > of signing
> > 5th year preps and JC guys here lately hasnt been so hot. You gotta
> > do what
> > you gotta do I guess. Don
> >
> >
> >
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