RE: Everyone cross your fingers!!

[dfairchild]

It seems to me this conversation about the merit of Souleymane's scholarship
is not relevant.  Someone has already mentioned that his signing occurred
during the period with the 5/8 rule.  And, as this poster (my apologies I
don't have time to look back and give credit where credit is due.) states -
if we did not use the scholarship - we would have lost it.  Right now we are
down 2 scholarships.  I think the sad reality was - Souleymane was the "best
available athlete" at that time.

I did notice in the Purdue box score, Souleymane's line included 1 foul and
1 TO in O minutes.  Can it get any worst?

Go Cats!
DF

-----Original Message-----
From: Holdheide, Brad [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:49 PM
To: 'address@hidden'
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Everyone cross your fingers!!


But if you're only gonna get one good year out of him could the scholarship
have been saved to maybe sign a better player that would either give you
better one year production or severals years of production.

"It takes many HS guys 2 years to get with the concept. (late signees might
take 3 years)"

I don't buy that.  Name me the last 10 UC freshmen scholarship players and
I'll bet 8 of 10 were playing their freshmen year and playing significant
minutes their sophomore year.

I don't know if the signing of Souley was good or not.  I'm just raising
questions about his worthwhile ness if he can't even see scrap minutes in
his second year on the team.



-----Original Message-----
From: rj [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:28 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Everyone cross your fingers!!

This is the theory....it takes most juco guys a year to get with the
concept.

It takes many HS guys 2 years to get with the concept. (late signees might
take 3 years)

What it really comes down to is....dont use the scholarship....or take a
gamble on a kid that clearly wont be ready for at least 2 years.

If Souly is where an average juco is by the midpoint of his junior year
(considering redshirt year, it might have been worth it.)

Rememeber, they couldnt find ANYONE else they wanted to sign so it was a
"roll the dice or wait til next year and roll the dice on someone else".



"Holdheide, Brad" <address@hidden> wrote:
But if it takes 5 scholarship years to get one good year out of Souly was it
worth the investment???? I don't know.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Marshall [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:19 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Everyone cross your fingers!!

It did take Kenyon a couple of years to mature as well... NO I am not
comparing souly to Kenyon, BUT, drastic changes are possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: rj [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:15 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Everyone cross your fingers!!


I believe the staff knew that Souly was a project and took the
calculated gamble that he, after a redshirt and a year practicing but
rarely playing, would be better than what they could get in a juco
player at that time.

Frankly, I think it came down to him or not using the scholarship till
the next year.

Remember, you cant teach height. No matter how much you scream at them
or run them !

And, players have regularly put on 20-40 pounds of muscle after 2-4
years in the program.

Lou D'Ambrosia wrote:
Sadly, I have to agree with you Mike. I watched Souly warm up last year
when UC played DePaul at the Roller Skating rink (AllState arena) and
again
last saturday against Purdue. Personally, I didn't see much of a
difference
in his development both physically or mentally. Where as watching a more

focused and determined E.Hicks going through his pregame was a huge
change
from his laughing and joking around with Bobbit during pregames last
year.

Souly, again in my humble opinion just looks a bit out of place on the
floor. I really, REALLY hope he proves me wrong but I think we are a
year
or two away from seeing any real contribution from him.

~Lou

> From: address@hidden
> Reply-To: address@hidden
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Everyone cross your fingers!!
> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:03:15 EST
>
> Sorry, we saw souly in the second exhibition game. He has more than a
> long way to go. He is not going to be an impact player at any point.
> Perhaps as a senior he will be able to spell someone but its not
> happening soon.




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