RE: Las Vegas Classic

[Brian Johnson]

I think we all owe a big thanks to the NCAA for the
2-in-4 rule >:-(
--- "Shinkle, Randy" <address@hidden> wrote:

> I've been checking the schedules posted at the
> official web sites of
> various schools, and here's how things appear to be
> arranged ....
>
> Five of the teams listed below (Delaware State,
> Jackson State, Southern
> Illinois, UTEP and Vanderbilt) are in a different
> tournament (along with
> Arizona State, Cal State Northridge and Tennessee
> State) which holds its
> finals in Las Vegas over Thanksgiving weekend.
>
> The Las Vegas Holiday Classic that UC is in was also
> intended to be an
> 8-team tournament, and it may still be, but as of
> now it only involves 6
> teams.  Each participating team will play 4 of the 5
> others per a
> predetermined schedule.  UC will play Northern Iowa
> (on 11/24) and
> Northwestern State (on 12/18) at home, and will then
> play Longwood on
> 12/30 and Illinois on 12/31 in Las Vegas. 
> Valparaiso is the team UC
> won't play in the tournament.
>
> The reason I think it's still a possibility that the
> tournament will go
> to 8 teams is that Oklahoma State, one of the
> schools originally listed
> as being in the tournament, has not yet released a
> schedule for this
> year.  But I have no idea whether there's still any
> teams left to fill
> the 8th spot.  At this late date, it's likely that
> it will be just a
> 6-team tournament, and since it guaranteed each team
> 4 games, the
> near-round-robin schedule will probably hold.
>
> Randy '78
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brent Wyrick [mailto:address@hidden
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:02 PM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Las Vegas Classic
>
>
> I'd be interested to see either of those matchups
> based on where those
> programs are right now or Vanderbilt for that
> matter.
>
> "Reporter: What do your players think about facing
> the Bearcats tomorrow
> Don?
>
> Don Haskins, UTEP: I really don't think my players
> can spell cat Dave."
>
>
> -1992 press conference
>
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harris, Derek C
> [mailto:address@hidden 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:34 AM
> To: 'address@hidden'
> Subject: [UC Basketball] Las Vegas Classic
>
> I finally found out what teams will
> be involved in this tournament.  
> Cincinnati, Delaware State, Illinois, 
> Jackson State, Northern Iowa, 
> Northwestern State, Southern Illinois,
> UTEP, Valparaiso, and Vanderbilt.  
> Obviously the promoters will have UC
> and Illinois on opposite sides of the bracket,
> but it looks like we should face another 
> tournament team in the semifinals.  I 
> would guess Southern Illinois or UTEP.  
> D/Taylor Mill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reber, Steven Edwin (Steve)
> [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:28 AM
> To: 'address@hidden'
> Subject: [UC Basketball] Why not recruit Whaley. 
>
>
>
> I remember last year when someone asked Huggs "Why
> recruit Whaley?" his
> response was "6'10", good ball skills, good passer,
> why WOULDN'T you
> recruit
> him???" 
>
> I think we have several good answers now, 
> If he does pan out, he would have been a 1 year
> contributor, and he goes
> to
> the NBA.
> or you have a Reuben Patterson who is a constant
> headache for 1 year,
> then
> figures it out and is a major contributor for the
> second half of his
> senior
> year.  
> Either way you get 1 year contribution but a very
> scary presence to
> other
> recruits.  The program got nothing but headaches out
> of Whaley, and his
> "upside" probably scared away several recruits who
> wouldn't want to sit
> behind him if he could have worked out.  When he
> does screw up, like he
> had
> several times before in his life (on the brink of
> playing top-level D1
> ball,
> you beat up people with a table leg????? People
> recognize the 6'10"
> guy.) UC
> is high and dry without a legit center.  
>
> Attitude, the Steve Logan factor, should be more of
> a consideration.
> Nothing against second chances, but too many 2nd,
> 3rd, 4th chances are
> given
> where the person isn't "hungry" for redemption. 
> When I lived in Tampa,
> there was a kid (Richie Parker???) who was going to
> Long Island U. for
> basketball, after having raped a girl and the other
> prisoners threw him
> a
> going away party with lots of pot, so he failed the
> drug test and was
> not
> paroled, lost his scholarship etc...
> Bet on the kids with not as much talent, but who are
> willing to work
> hard
> and learn, develop.  
>
> I think Huggs is one of the best coaches around, but
> if he admits to
> himself
> that he is not perfect, he can become even better.
>
> Steve in Columbus


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