RE: HUGGS

[Harris, Derek C]

I would have to agree with that statement.
Huggins has recruited to many combo guards
to play PG in college.  Nick Willims, Kenny
Satterfield, Steve Logan, Chadd Moore.  All
were combo PG's or Shoot First PG's.  I could 
only imagine if Logan would of had another
reliable 3 point shooter on his team or a PG
who could break down the defense off the dribble. 
Guard play wins National Championships.. We have 
had many good guards, but we have not had a true
PG and a solid 2 guard in many years.  
D/Taylor Mill

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy LaCombe [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:04 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] HUGGS


Aren't you really saying that Huggs has not had that many great point
guards?  Who makes the decisions when part of the plan breaks down.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Johnson [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:05 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] HUGGS

Well said, Brent.  Bad luck has no doubt played a significant role, but this
has happened far too many times (7 early exits in 8 years) to dismiss
exclusively as luck.

The thing is, some of these teams have had enough weapons (especially the
2000 team), so that they didn't need to depend on just one guy offensively. 
That said, last year's early exit was hardly and offensive problem.

--- Brent Wyrick <address@hidden> wrote:

> There is something out of Iroq's discussion on Huggs that I'd like to 
> hash out here if it hasn't been hit a few hundred times already; And 
> that's March. Much has been made of The Bearcats being underperformers 
> in March.
>
> I don't think it's a March problem. I think it actually is a coaching 
> issue with Huggs and while I like Huggs and his style, there's seems 
> to be a continuing problem with his teams. The Bearcats have 
> consistently failed at any resemblance of secondary offense when the 
> primary Plan A offense breaks down.
>
> Go back to the Fortson Era. Can't get the entry pass to Danny in the 
> post?
> Complete loss of organization on offense and an L in the Loss column.
> Kenyon breaks his leg? Complete loss of organization on offense as a 
> result (And I'm not including the STL game). There are lots of 
> examples of this.
> Sometimes this happens only for a game at a time during the regular 
> season but in March when it happens you're toast.
>
> Bob needs to do a better job of coaching a secondary offense in 
> practices so the team is ready if the primary motion offense (or 
> go-to-guy offense) fails in a game. You can't go into March with only 
> Plan A.
> The other coaches in
> the tournament are too good not to figure out how Plan A works and 
> shut it down. If they have the personnel to do it, we lose and it's 
> "wait 'til next year."
>
> Brent
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iroq Gathing [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: [UC Basketball] HUGGS
>
>
> Lets talk about HUGS, Rob just seems to be a good example of a bigger 
> problem with Hugs system.  Huggins and college coaching is more about 
> recruiting top tier players than coaching, which explains why great 
> college coaches normally make terrible pro coaches.  The reason, pro 
> coaching is more about managing talent and making a system that fits 
> the ever-changing talent and multi-million dollar attitudes on pro 
> teams.  A top draft pick or free-agent can get a NBA coach fired and a 
> top college coach can make a top talent transfer (if he doesnt buy 
> into a system).
> Thats the difference.
> Furthermore, Huggins/UC cannot compete against the Dukes, NCs, and Big 
> Ten, when it comes to recruiting top tier players that do not have 
> baggage.
> Huggins/UC has gained national prominence and job security by being 
> known as the program that recruits the best troubled talent in the 
> country.  ITS NOT GIVING THOSE KIDS 2ND AND 3RD CHANCES; ITS ABOUT 
> GIVING UCS PROGRAM ITS ONLY CHANCE TO COMPETE  AGAINST THE DUKES, 
> NCS, ETC.  But if the troubled kid doesnt produce, throw him out on 
> his back.
>
>  
>
> The problem is Huggins cannot break Robs stubbornness, and Rob has 
> yet to produce under Huggins antics or disciplines.  But let there be 
> NO doubt, Huggins recruited Rob because Rob was very successful on the 
> court in high school and at Barden Community College, and was ranked 
> by top scouts for years as one of the nations top players and NBA 
> prospects (because of his performance on the court).  Big Robs 
> rankings changed only since he played for Huggins.  However, I would 
> bet he could make an NBA team after workouts because no one can 
> question his potential--- and NBA coaches manage
> potential.      
>
>
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