RE: Re: The new BE

[Patrick Clark]

Norte Dame is also the only individual school with its own National TV
contract, with NBC.  Whether they are dominant or not, they are
incredibly popular.  They can make amazing amounts of money without
joining a conference, and don't have to share a dime with anyone else.
No one else can do this.  It's not a matter of some delusions of
grandeur about the stae of their program, it is an economic reality:
joining a league would cost them millions of dollars.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steffen, Brian [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:43 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Re: [UC Football] The new BE

I agree that adding ND to the BE for football would be a MAJOR plus for
UC.  The problem with Notre Dame is that they still think that they are
the team they were in the past and are beyond conference hassles.  They
want to play who they want when they want.  Besides that, they are a BCS
school.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that they are the only
non-conference affiliate with BCS status.  The only way that I see ND
joining the BE as a full member (including football) would be if the
NCAA would take away their BCS status.  Still, I'm keeping my fingers
crossed!

Bottom line, if ND were to join the BE for football, there is no doubt
for anyone that the BE is a BCS conference still.  Until then, there has
to be some questions.

Brian Steffen
Sr. QA Systems Analyst
Yum Brands, Inc.
address@hidden


-----Original Message-----
From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:24 AM
To: address@hidden; address@hidden
Subject: [UC Basketball] Re: [UC Football] The new BE


I agree that BC is a big loss, but their fball program has been
consistently good, but not really great.  They are a good fit for the
ACC and what they want, and given a choice, I would take BC over USF in
a heartbeat, but from UC's perspective, I'd rather have Syracuse.

Question about ND:  Does anyone think they will regain their Lou Holtz
days of success?  Personally, I do not think they can do it as an
independent.  I wonder how they would feel about a BE fball conference
that eventually went to 12 teams, and fielded two 6 team divisions.  You
play the other 5 within your division and 1 crossover game that rotates.
That would be only 6 conf. games.  Would something like that be worth it
if ND said they'd do it?  Ok, so now I am thinking crazy stuff, but why
not!  ;-)

jon b


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rands, William (randswj)" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: [UC Football] The new BE


> I think BC is a big loss. It has good name recognition in fb, is in a
great
> market, and has a strong reputation for academics.It has some 
> cachet.Syr, WVU & Pitt all have good fb history, but WVU & Syr are way

> down
recently.The
> new BE will not be an impressive fb conference. Oh well.
>
> Like everybody, I think USF is probably next in line.
>         Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon breiner [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:16 AM
> To: address@hidden; address@hidden
> Subject: [UC Football] The new BE
>
>
> Well, with BC going to the ACC, I guess it is for sure UC is going to 
> the new BE.  Who will join UL and UC?  I figure USF based on media 
> reports,
but
> would be interested in other thoughts?  How do you think the divisions
would
> break down in bball?  I still think this will be the best basketball 
> conference in the US.
>
> As for fball, the talk lately has been to include more conferences in 
> the BCS.  I read somewhere that if the BE is not part of the BCS, the 
> BCS
would
> no longer have the majority of Div I schools, so it seems "they" need 
> the BE.  With Syracuse, Pitt, etc. the BCS inclusion can be justified,

> even if it is the "worst" of the included conferences.
>
> So for me, BC leaving is not a huge surprise and does not bother me as
much
> as if it had been Syracuse, for instance.
>
> jon b



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