Re: Butler slams UC after picking OSU

[Mike Sherrick]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jon breiner" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after picking OSU


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Schroeder, Tom" <address@hidden>
> To: "Bearcat Basketball Forum (E-mail)" <address@hidden>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:40 PM
> Subject: FW: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after picking OSU
>
>
> It is quite unfair in that most of the colleges at UC are very reputable
on
> a national level.  Yet our so called "reputation" is based on the
standards
> of University College, which if I'm not mistaken, is being phased out.
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>
> Tom,
>
> Can you please back this statement up?  Do you know what the mission of
> University College is/was or where exactly the reputation is based upon it
> nationally?
>
> I am really interested in your source.  I have dealt with misinformation
> such as yours (even from within the some in the administration itself!)
for
> my 8 years in University College and have dealt with administrators who
> think the best way to deal with underprepared students is to give them
some
> remedial math, English and reading and ship them on with no regard for why
> or how they are underprepared.  I've dealt with the colleges that have a
> stellar reputation (or not in some cases) who claim to have no
underprepared
> students and are thus under-serving significant portions of their
clientele.
> Anyway, I can go on, but I prefer to shut up now.  I am just interested on
> how you came about this reputation info.  Thanks!
>
> jon b


Jon,

The bad rep of University College existed when I was an undergraduate 40
years ago!  I remember teasing friends about being enrolled in it.  I don't
know why it had such a rep.  It might have been because it was a two year
program (I think) and because it seemed to be the refuge of students who
were undecided about their program of studies.  We had a somewhat similar
program at my university, which we called General Studies, and people bad
mouthed it all the time.  It has been abolished for some time now, and I am
one of the few people who was sorry to see it go.

I was sorry to read that University College was being phased out.  I see
nothing wrong with a program geared towards helping students master the
basic disciplines, with a broader focus, which, I think, was one of the
missions of the College.

Mike in Newfoundland