RE: Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle.....

[Brian Johnson]

Well, it would be an upgrade over Coppin St. :-)
--- Keith Wedinger <address@hidden> wrote:
> An annual OSU/UC would easily become the 2nd biggest
> game on the
> schedule with regards to pregame hype.  The only
> game that would eclipse
> it would be the Crosstown Shootout.  You have
> history ('61 and '62), bad
> blood (recruiting of Flint and Butler), and a
> matchup of the two biggest
> in state schools in the state.  The local newspapers
> and the local media
> would have no trouble building up this game.
>
> It would be awesome baby with a capital A.
>
> J. Keith Wedinger
> Bearcatnews.com
> Sciotofootball.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:37 PM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Mr. Pot meet Mr.
> Kettle.....
>
> I agree there might be interest in playing OSU in
> basketball and the
> rotation you suggest would obviously be compelling
> but I doubt there is
> as much interest in a UC/OSU basketball series as
> there is in the
> football series (since OSU basketball is down and
> has been for some time
> whereas UC basketball is up and has been for some
> time).  In all the
> examples you give but one (Pitt vs. Penn St), the
> lesser program is
> obviously willing to play the more highly successful
> program with lots
> of fan interest.
>
> This is not the case for UC vs. OSU in basketball...
> now football is different case and hence all the
> interest...
>
> With OSU being in the better conference and more
> universally followed
> for all sports within the state, shellacking them
> for a few years would
> be nice, but unless they become more successful in
> basketball, I believe
> the fan interest would wane...
>
> CD '96
>
> "Shinkle, Randy" wrote:
> > I respectfully disagree.  Let's try a few
> comparisons.  In a list of
> top rivals that they really want to play and beat:
> >   - where would Louisville fans rank Kentucky?
> >   - where would Memphis fans rank Tennessee?
> >   - where would Pittsburgh fans rank Penn State?
> >   - where would Houston fans rank Texas?
> >   - etc.
> > A major state school makes for a powerful regional
> rival.  I admit
> that the intensity wanes a bit when the state school
> is relatively weak
> in a given sport (such as Penn State in basketball)
> but it's still
> there.
> > I'm also not inclined to believe that the
> "newness" would wear off
> after a while (see again UofL vs. UK), but if that's
> a real concern,
> perhaps this idea (from a post of mine after last
> year's OSU football
> game) would be more acceptable ....
> >     I can't imagine anyone who was at the game
> Saturday, from either
> side,
> >     thinking that it would be a bad idea to bring
> this game back to
> PBS.  IMO,
> >     the answer is obvious:  UC and Ohio State
> agree to return in 2008,
> per the
> >     reported option in the current contract, and
> every 4 years
> thereafter.  In
> >     the other even-numbered years, UC plays at
> Ohio State.  Both
> schools can
> >     tell every recruit that they'll play in PBS
> during their
> eligibility, and
> >     UC recruits can also expect to play at OSU
> while they're at UC.
> >     I think UC can play another game at PBS
> sometime during the years
> between
> >     OSU games, but it needs to be one that
> generates similar
> excitement.  To do
> >     that, it has to be a school that sees value in
> giving up a home
> game to
> >     bring their team to the Cincinnati market and
> will bring lots of
> their
> >     fans, who will look at UC as at least a
> potential rival.  Very few
> schools
> >     fit that description; in fact, IMO, only one. 
> I don't think
> Michigan,
> >     Notre Dame or Tennessee would come here, and
> the only school that
> could
> >     generate enough "buzz" (assuming they start
> winning more) is UK.
> >     There's a bigger picture here.  UC has two
> local rivals:  Miami in
> football
> >     and Xavier in basketball.  They also have a
> great nearby
> conference rival
> >     in Louisville.  What UC doesn't have are a
> couple of big regional
> rivals to
> >     add to the interest level.  Enter OSU and UK,
> in both football
> *and*
> >     basketball.  Imagine the following:
> >
> >     2006:  UC at OSU (football) -- UK at UC
> (basketball)
> >     2007:  OSU at UC (basketball) -- UC at UK
> (football)
> >     2008:  UC vs. OSU at PBS (football) -- UC at
> UK (basketball)
> >     2009:  UC at OSU (basketball) -- UC vs. UK at
> PBS (football)
> >     2010:  (repeat the cycle)
> >
> >     Sure, it would be great to play both UK and
> OSU every year in
> basketball,
> >     but I'd be OK with the above, at least to get
> something started.
> I'd even
> >     agree to play the UC home basketball games at
> US Bank Arena and
> let the UK
> >     and OSU fans have a few thousand seats. 
> Building these regional
> rivalries
> >     would be worth it, IMO.
> >
> >     Now that UC and OSU have played competitive
> football games, and
> given that
> >     UK has also played UC recently and likes to
> bring their basketball
> team to
> >     Cincinnati, I don't see why this couldn't be
> sold to each schools'
> athletic
> >     departments.  What is the down side for
> anyone?
> > This is not to say that I wouldn't like to see
> Indiana or Notre Dame
> (or several others) on UC's schedule, but I don't
> think any of them
> carry quite the clout of OSU, regardless of won-lost
> records (within
> reason).
> > Randy '78
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brett Pappas [mailto:address@hidden
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:36 PM
> > > To: address@hidden
> > > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Mr. Pot meet Mr.
> Kettle.....
> > > I just don't get the need by UC fans to play OSU
> in basketball.. How
>
> > > does this help UC?? Beating a team that is
> rarely ranked in the
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