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RE: Butler slams UC after picking OSU



From: Brian Johnson
Date: 12 Aug 2003 - 11:37 AM EST

I wouldn't doubt any of that Randy, but I disagree
when you say he had to give SOME reason. All he had
to do is say OSU is a better fit, he'll be happy
there, etc. Whether or not it was his idea to
discredit UC's academics, he still chose to say it.
Speaking as someone who holds a Mechanical Engineering
degree from UC, one of the best programs out there,
I'm offended by what he said.
--- "Shinkle, Randy" <address@hidden> wrote:
IMO, Jamar can be rightly criticized (at least a
little) for the entire process, as you suggest. But
the focus of this thread was his statement about
UC's academics, and that is what the comments below
(and my prior one) were directed toward.

To elaborate, I believe that:
- Jamar's stated reason for choosing OSU is *not*
the real reason.
- He apparently was unwilling to state the *real*
reason.
- He had to give *some* reason.
- The reason he gave was *not* his idea.
- It would be hard to convince me otherwise.

Randy '78


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Holdheide
[mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:07 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after
picking OSU


"I still have no bad feelings for Jamaar and his
family who
seem like very
good people."

How would everyone on here feel about Jamar if
Huggs hadn't picked up
Vincent Banks immediately UC ended up being stuck
with the
"best available"
(Taron Barker).

Jamar put UC in the worst scenario possible. UC
put their
trust in him and
likely backed off the recruiting of several point
guards
assuming he was
coming. I think this is a credit to Huggins and
his staff
for getting Banks
and is a discredit to Jamar for screwing UC.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Pappas [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:59 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after
picking OSU


I made my comment with tongue fully in cheek. I
believe
Jamaar's reasons
for going to Ohio State had very little to do with
academics.
My point
was that saying it was about academics is pretty
flimsy.

Time to move on and focus on kids who do want to
play here. I
still have
no bad feelings for Jamaar and his family who seem
like very good
people. It is hard to fault someone for changing
their mind
when making
a big decision like this, especially when they are
still in
high school.

--Brett

Michael Ryan wrote:

I'd like to offer the possibility that Jamar did
have all
the facts, but
his new school may have put a bug in his ear to
say something about
academics. It would be an easy 'out' and an
excuse that everyone (in
the media) would accept as logical.

Plus both Huggins and Jamar's father are quoted
as saying academics
could not have been the reason.

Mike Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Pappas [mailto:address@hidden
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:11 AM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC
after picking OSU


Shame that Jamaar doesn't have facts on both
schools. The
latest NCAA
report uses the 1995-96 freshman class (since it
is the latest class
that finished the 6 year eliglible period).

Basketball:
Ohio State - 38%
Cincinnati - 100%

--Brett

Mick Bergman wrote:



What does everyone think of this kid now? I
really hope
that UC wins a
NC while he is stuck at OSU doing absolutely
nothing...



http://www.enquirer.com/bearcats/2003/08/12/wwwuc1a12.html


Mick















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