RE: Butler slams UC after picking OSU

[Shinkle, Randy]

IMO, Jamar can be rightly criticized (at least a little) for the entire process, as you suggest.  But the focus of this thread was his statement about UC's academics, and that is what the comments below (and my prior one) were directed toward.

To elaborate, I believe that:
  - Jamar's stated reason for choosing OSU is *not* the real reason.
  - He apparently was unwilling to state the *real* reason.
  - He had to give *some* reason.
  - The reason he gave was *not* his idea.
  - It would be hard to convince me otherwise.

Randy '78


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Holdheide [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after picking OSU
>
>
> "I still have no bad feelings for Jamaar and his family who 
> seem like very
> good people."
>
> How would everyone on here feel about Jamar if Huggs hadn't picked up
> Vincent Banks immediately UC ended up being stuck with the 
> "best available"
> (Taron Barker).
>
> Jamar put UC in the worst scenario possible.  UC put their 
> trust in him and
> likely backed off the recruiting of several point guards 
> assuming he was
> coming.  I think this is a credit to Huggins and his staff 
> for getting Banks
> and is a discredit to Jamar for screwing UC.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Pappas [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:59 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after picking OSU
>
>
> I made my comment with tongue fully in cheek. I believe 
> Jamaar's reasons 
> for going to Ohio State had very little to do with academics. 
> My point 
> was that saying it was about academics is pretty flimsy.
>
> Time to move on and focus on kids who do want to play here. I 
> still have 
> no bad feelings for Jamaar and his family who seem like very good 
> people. It is hard to fault someone for changing their mind 
> when making 
> a big decision like this, especially when they are still in 
> high school.
>
> --Brett
>
> Michael Ryan wrote:
>
> > I'd like to offer the possibility that Jamar did have all 
> the facts, but
> > his new school may have put a bug in his ear to say something about
> > academics.  It would be an easy 'out' and an excuse that everyone (in
> > the media) would accept as logical. 
> >
> > Plus both Huggins and Jamar's father are quoted as saying academics
> > could not have been the reason. 
> >
> > Mike Ryan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brett Pappas [mailto:address@hidden 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:11 AM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Butler slams UC after picking OSU
> >
> >
> > Shame that Jamaar doesn't have facts on both schools. The 
> latest NCAA 
> > report uses the 1995-96 freshman class (since it is the latest class 
> > that finished the 6 year eliglible period).
> >
> > Basketball:
> > Ohio State - 38%
> > Cincinnati - 100%
> >
> > --Brett
> >
> > Mick Bergman wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> > > What does everyone think of this kid now? I really hope 
> that UC wins a 
> > > NC while he is stuck at OSU doing absolutely nothing...
> > >
> > > http://www.enquirer.com/bearcats/2003/08/12/wwwuc1a12.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Mick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >