RE: Virginia attorney general joins suit against ACC

[Shinkle, Randy]

Way to go, Keith.  You just blew your chance at ever having a job at NCAA headquarters.  You make WAY too much sense (and you, too, Richard, for that matter).  ;-)

Here's a natural divisional alignment for Richard's conference:

Northeast:

    Boston College
    Connecticut
    Pittsburgh
    Syracuse
    Virginia Tech
    West Virginia

Southwest:

    Cincinnati
    Florida State
    Georgia Tech
    Louisville
    Memphis
    Miami

The problem here is that Florida State and Miami want to be in different divisions, so maybe Miami and Virginia Tech switch.  Then the Southwest becomes a subset of the old Metro ("it's deja vu all over again!").

Here's another spin:  Something like this could actually happen, except that the current Big East (including Rutgers) would expand to include Florida State and Georgia Tech.  That makes 10 for football and 16 for basketball.  If the football schools went their own way, they'd probably add 2 more, but who?  UC and Louisville could be it, but so could, say, Clemson and East Carolina.

The thing is, what would the ACC do?  If Clemson stayed with the other 6 charter members, they might just add 2 to replace FSU and GT.  UC and Louisville?  The ACC might not be a BCS conference any longer, but think about the basketball!

More twists and turns than a box of Christmas lights, and they just keep on coming.

Randy '78


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Wedinger [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: address@hidden; address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Virginia attorney general joins suit
> against ACC
>
>
> This entire conference mess is being driven by the fact that 
> in Division
> I football, there are the have's (aka BCS) and the 
> have-not's.  I think
> Miles Brand and the NCAA need to step in and state that when the BCS
> contract runs out, there will be an NCAA sanctioned Division 
> I football
> playoff open to ALL Division I schools.  The time to level 
> the football
> playing field is LONG overdue.  Take a look at NCAA men's basketball.
> True, only the powerful schools have a realistic shot at winning the
> whole thing but every school playing Division I basketball 
> has a shot to
> get to the dance.  No one is excluded.  Every school playing 
> Division I
> football should have a shot at reaching the playoffs 
> regardless of their
> conference affiliation.  Give each Division I conference an automatic
> bid, fill out the rest of the 16 team field with at-large bids and let
> the fun begin.  The bowls that are not made part of the NCAA football
> playoff can serve as the NIT for football.  And if some of these bowl
> games disappear, so be it.  There are WAY too many bowl games anyway.
>
> J. Keith Wedinger
> Webmaster
> Bearcatnews.com
> Sciotofootball.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard l. kandell [mailto:address@hidden 
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:18 AM
> To: address@hidden
>
> This is developing more turns than a soap opera.  I just read where
> Florida State and Georgia Tech are absolutely furious at Duke, who is
> one of the modern day football light weights, for holding up the
> expansion.  So, in the possible event of the ACC vote not 
> going forward,
> I propose the following 12 team all-sports conference, the 
> hell with the
> ACC, the BE, & C-USA, and you can divide it up any way you'd like, and
> give it any name you want  - and there is no way that the BCS, if it
> survives into the future, can leave them out - they are an immediate
> powerhouse in both football AND basketball (and ND can stay 
> with what's
> left of the BE):
>
> Fl. St.
> Miami
> Georgia Tech
> UC
> UofL
> Memphis
> BC
> Syracuse
> Va. Tech
> W. Va.
> Pitt
> UConn
>
> See if Mr. Goin can pull that one off  :-)
>
> Richard K.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wedinger, Keith" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: [UC Basketball] Virginia attorney general joins suit against
> ACC
>
>
> > This just keeps getting uglier and uglier.  Wonder when the ACC will
> throw
> > up its hands and say, "it's just not worth it".
> >
> > http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2003/0612/1567209.html
> > <http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2003/0612/1567209.html>
> >
> > J. Keith Wedinger
> > Senior Software Developer
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