Re: Speaking of negative stereotyping

[Colleen Patterson]

I'm with you Brian.  It took me about 2 minutes and a few mouse clicks to
come up with some actual numbers:

Nick has averaged 7.2 assists per game over his career.
4.3 assists this year in roughly 27 minutes per game.
He was 21st in the league this year in assist/TO ratio.
5 assists per in the playoffs in 28 minutes per game.

Furthermore, I took a close look at the career assist/TO ratio for various
NBA point guards, young and old.  You might be surprised to know that Nick's
3.27 career assist/TO ratio is better than every point guard I could find
with the exception of John Stockton's (whose 3.72 over 18 seasons is
stratospheric).  Keep in mind that JS always had big Karl to finish those
passes, as well.  Who did Nick have finishing for him in Denver?

Better than Kidd.
Better than Payton.
Better than Andre Miller.
Better than Stoudamire.
Better than Steve Nash.
Better than Stephon Marbury.

Better than Mark Jackson, oft heralded as a great passer, average scorer
(you'd think with a scoring average of less than 10, he'd have fewer
turnovers).

So, looking at Nick's career 15 points, 7 assists average, coupled with an
assist to turnover ratio 2nd only to the NBA's all time greatest point guard
in this era, I think one could make an argument that Nick is one of the best
all around point guards of the last decade.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nbaassists&sort=astto&season=2
003&seasontype=2
But please, Mr. Charlie in Green Bay, don't let something as trivial as fact
get in the way of an insipient, ignorant flame on Cincinnati.  I wouldn't
want you to put that associate's degree from Osh Kosh Community College to
use, b'Gosh.

BTW-Jalen Rose, for all the alleged "selfishness" hit the top 40 in assists
this year, as well.

Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Johnson" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Speaking of negative stereotyping


> There was a time in my life where I might have been
> offended by this, but this cheese head is just so
> stupid, he makes me laugh.
>
> Thanks for sharing BearcatLink.
> --- address@hidden wrote:
> > This kind of Bearcat stuff makes me furious, I
> > expect it on the Xavier sites but this was a "Take"
> > on Jim Rome's national site. This guy is ridiculous,
> > worse yet he lumps us with UM.
> >
> > Dear Jim:
> >
> > Don Nelson's epic blast on Ruben Patterson after
> > Game 7 on Sunday made me think...has there been a
> > former Cincinnati player in the NBA in recent
> > history that hasn't been "dumb as a rock?" Think
> > about it. The Bob Huggins era has turned out some
> > classic, selfish, underachieving NBA players.
> > Rivaled only by the Steve Fisher era Michigan teams.
> > Could you imagine the possibilities if they somehow
> > combined to form one NBA team? They could be the
> > Michinati Wolfcats. They'd all get paid about $15
> > mil a year, and average 20 points and 0 assists a
> > game. They'd be the most talented team in the league
> > and go 0-82 because they're all more concerned about
> > making the All Star Team and getting paid than they
> > are about winning. They'd also be the most fun team
> > in the league to watch because they're all a bunch
> > of head cases. They could start an incredibly
> > talented front line of Kenyon Martin, Chris Webber,
> > and Juwan Howard. Best friends CWebb and Juwan back
> > together again. At least best friends until they
> > started fighting about who was getting more shots
> > and more money. The starting backcourt would be
> > Jalen Rose and Nick Van Exel. The over/under
> > on assists per game between the two of them would be
> > 1.5. The only guy on that team that MIGHT throw the
> > ball to a teammate is CWebb. The bench could consist
> > of underachievers like Danny Fortson, Steve Logan,
> > Ruben Patterson, Maurice Taylor, Loy Vaught, and
> > Tractor Traylor. They could be coached by Glen Rice,
> > who was always happier averaging 25 points per game
> > on a crappy Charlotte team than he was being a role
> > player on the World Champion Lakers. What an amazing
> > team this would be. Someone needs to make this
> > happen. War Wolfcats.
> >
> > Charlie in Green Bay
>
>
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