NCAA selection challenge :)

[Chris]

That take is dead on. We are all Bearcat fans who were heartsick after our
loss Wednesday. Joe Lunardi and hopefully the selection committee could
(should) care less about comparing Cincinnati to itself, and there really
aren't teams out there meriting a bid more.

Here is a challenge for ya. Everyone acts like Butler, Gonzaga and Southern
Illinois are into the tournament (wouldn't be so sure myself).

Give me your best argument as to why those 3 deserve a bid more than the
Bearcats?

IMHO, the Bearcats could get a bid every single year guaranteed if they
decided to move to a true mid-major conference (yeah, that's right Mr.
Packer :) ) and beat lower level teams all season. Gonzaga for instance has
been great in the past, but nothing on their resume makes them a better
choice than the Bearcats.

Chris


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Pappas" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA


> Here is my take. Most of us have grown very accustomed to a certain
> level of play from the Cats, and this year pales in comparison. We are
> also used to C-USA being very mediocre and this year they are holding
> their own. We have as many top 25 teams as the SEC, PAC10, ACC, and Big
> East, more than the BIGTEN, and only the BIG12 has more with 4.
>
> Based on past years, we usually had to hold our record to tougher
> scrutiny than other teams because their conferences appeared tougher. I
> don't think that is the case this year with a few exceptions.
>
> So after the loss, I too wrote off the NCAA based on my own reasoning
> that focused on UC. Now that I have focused on the rest of college
> basketball I realize that there aren't a whole lot of better options for
> the committee to choose from.
>
> --Brett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Wedinger [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
>
> I don't think Randy was trying to put down our team.  He was simply
> stating
> some facts with regards to what might keep UC out.  Immediately after
> the
> USM loss, I was resigned to the fact that UC was going to the NIT.  The
> radio announcers, Dan Hoard and Chuck Machuck, also believed that the
> NCAA
> bid was gone.  Now, after thinking about for a couple of days, I think
> UC's
> chances aren't that bad.  UC is certainly not a lock but their resume
> looks
> better than a lot of teams considered to be on the bubble.
>
> J. Keith Wedinger
> Bearcatnews.com
> Sciotofootball.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Holdheide [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:25 AM
> To: 'address@hidden'
>
> This NEGATIVE attitude is killing me.  We should be supporting our team
> and
> pushing for them to get in no matter how bad they played and how much
> they
> don't deserve it.
>
> Let's support our team, not give people reasons to leave them out.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shinkle, Randy [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:19 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
>
>
> Joe Lunardi (ESPN's "bracketologist") said recently that the whole
> selection
> process can best be summed up as:
>
>     "Who did you beat, when did you beat them, and where?"
>
> If this is in fact the overriding philosophy, UC is in trouble (IMO).
> Here's why ....
>
> UC has 3 road wins:  TCU, Saint Louis and East Carolina.  Two of those
> are
> the very bottom of C-USA this year.  The third has since beaten UC at
> the
> Shoe.  The most recent of these wins was January 22nd.
>
> UC has one neutral court win:  Oregon, on December 17th.  If Oregon were
> still considered as good as they were then, I wouldn't be writing this
> message.
>
> UC has one neutral court loss:  Southern Miss, on Wednesday.
>
> UC's 2 "marquis" wins, over Oklahoma State and Louisville, were both in
> the
> Shoe, and both teams have been less than stellar since.
>
> If we could take away any one of 1) the fall of Oregon, 2) the home loss
> to
> Saint Louis, or 3) the loss to Southern Miss, UC would be in, with room
> to
> spare.  Together, those 3 things will quite possibly keep them out.
>
> Randy '78
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dfairchild [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:03 AM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
> >
> >
> > I made a mistake in my previous post - it looks like there will be 18
> > conferences with only one bid - which leaves 47 bids to be claimed.
> > UC is currently 31 in the RPI.  If you go strictly be the rpi the
> > cutoff as of this morning would be including Oregon at 48 (Weber St
> > has an automatic bid, from a 1 bid conference at 39).  The last four
> > out would be Texas Tech (50), St. Louis (51), Tennessee (52), and
> > North Carolina (54).  The last four in would be Oregon (48), Indiana
> > (47), LSU (44), and Gonzaga (43).
> >
> > The most suspect of those in, IMHO, are UC (31), ASU (32), Alabama
> > (37) and Auburn (38).
> >
> > UC, Alabama, Auburn, and Texas Tech are all 4-6 in their last 10.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Holdheide [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:28 AM
> > To: 'address@hidden'
> > Subject: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
> >
> >
> > Amazing to see what the Cats fans think about our chances of going to
> > the NCAA tournament.  The Bearcatnews poll is tied at exactly 132
> > votes each way.