RE: Cats are going to the NCAA

[Shinkle, Randy]

Keith is right.  I'd be very happy to see the streak continue.  But we have to be honest:  UC took their worst loss at the worst possible time, continuing a downward trend, and taken by itself their "resume" is not that strong.  Sure, lots of other teams have their own faults, too.  But the problem is, UC has given the committee (which has a natural, though *perhaps* unintended, bias toward the BCS conferences) a reason to see the "tiebreakers" as going against UC.

Randy '78

P.S. -- If anyone thinks *I* have a NEGATIVE attitude toward this team, I suggest you review Huggins' post-game comments from Wednesday night.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Wedinger [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
>
>
> I don't think Randy was trying to put down our team.  He was 
> simply stating
> some facts with regards to what might keep UC out.  
> Immediately after the
> USM loss, I was resigned to the fact that UC was going to the 
> NIT.  The
> radio announcers, Dan Hoard and Chuck Machuck, also believed 
> that the NCAA
> bid was gone.  Now, after thinking about for a couple of 
> days, I think UC's
> chances aren't that bad.  UC is certainly not a lock but 
> their resume looks
> better than a lot of teams considered to be on the bubble.
>
> J. Keith Wedinger
> Bearcatnews.com
> Sciotofootball.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Holdheide [mailto:address@hidden 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:25 AM
> To: 'address@hidden'
>
> This NEGATIVE attitude is killing me.  We should be 
> supporting our team and
> pushing for them to get in no matter how bad they played and 
> how much they
> don't deserve it.
>
> Let's support our team, not give people reasons to leave them out.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shinkle, Randy [mailto:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 11:19 AM
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
>
>
> Joe Lunardi (ESPN's "bracketologist") said recently that the 
> whole selection
> process can best be summed up as:
>
>     "Who did you beat, when did you beat them, and where?"
>
> If this is in fact the overriding philosophy, UC is in trouble (IMO).
> Here's why ....
>
> UC has 3 road wins:  TCU, Saint Louis and East Carolina.  Two 
> of those are
> the very bottom of C-USA this year.  The third has since 
> beaten UC at the
> Shoe.  The most recent of these wins was January 22nd.
>
> UC has one neutral court win:  Oregon, on December 17th.  If 
> Oregon were
> still considered as good as they were then, I wouldn't be writing this
> message.
>
> UC has one neutral court loss:  Southern Miss, on Wednesday.
>
> UC's 2 "marquis" wins, over Oklahoma State and Louisville, 
> were both in the
> Shoe, and both teams have been less than stellar since.
>
> If we could take away any one of 1) the fall of Oregon, 2) 
> the home loss to
> Saint Louis, or 3) the loss to Southern Miss, UC would be in, 
> with room to
> spare.  Together, those 3 things will quite possibly keep them out.
>
> Randy '78
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dfairchild [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:03 AM
> > To: address@hidden
> > Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
> >
> >
> > I made a mistake in my previous post - it looks like there 
> will be 18 
> > conferences with only one bid - which leaves 47 bids to be 
> claimed.  
> > UC is currently 31 in the RPI.  If you go strictly be the rpi the 
> > cutoff as of this morning would be including Oregon at 48 (Weber St 
> > has an automatic bid, from a 1 bid conference at 39).  The 
> last four 
> > out would be Texas Tech (50), St. Louis (51), Tennessee (52), and 
> > North Carolina (54).  The last four in would be Oregon 
> (48), Indiana 
> > (47), LSU (44), and Gonzaga (43).
> >
> > The most suspect of those in, IMHO, are UC (31), ASU (32), Alabama 
> > (37) and Auburn (38).
> >
> > UC, Alabama, Auburn, and Texas Tech are all 4-6 in their last 10.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brad Holdheide [mailto:address@hidden
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:28 AM
> > To: 'address@hidden'
> > Subject: [UC Basketball] Cats are going to the NCAA
> >
> >
> > Amazing to see what the Cats fans think about our chances 
> of going to 
> > the NCAA tournament.  The Bearcatnews poll is tied at exactly 132 
> > votes each way.