Re: Bobbitt, other UL thoughts

[Jon Macomber]

Believe me, there are a lot of things that happen that don't attract the
attention of the "mainstream" media.  I personally have seen some players
involved in things that could be front page news.  Of course I have done
many things myself that would be front page news if I was a person of
noteworthy basketball talent.

What actually happened is not incredibly important to me.  Eyewitness
testimony is notoriously bad: 10 people can give 10 different stories.  And
of course the juiciest stories get followed, often without regard for pesky
things like facts (ex: Art Long).

Okay, something happened and it's being dealt with.  It appears we're at the
line between interest/passion for college basketball and gossiping about
soap operas and Hollywood romances.

Jon M



----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Sorge" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts


> Thank you Jason, maybe I am not up in the night after all :)
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Kinney" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts
>
>
> > I have a friend who is a member of the dance team and she is usually
good
> > for some information before it becomes public.  For instance, when
Dermarr
> > left early for the draft, she told me about a week before it became
public
> > knowledge that he had called her and other members of the dance team and
> > thanked them for their hospitality and that he was going to enter the
> draft.
> > With all this talk about Field being involved in a nightclub
altercation,
> > she did mention that he got sucker punched at a bar in Clifton a few
weeks
> > back.  If my memory serves me correctly it was right around the time
> Bobbit
> > quit the team.  However, she made no mention of Tony not defending
Field,
> in
> > fact she said other players who were there came to Field's aid. She did
> not
> > mention specific names as to who was there and who wasn't though.
> >
> > Just thought I'd chime in on what I heard through the grapevine.
> >
> > Jason
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Wedinger, Keith" <address@hidden>
> > To: <address@hidden>
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:17 AM
> > Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts
> >
> >
> > > If the story you mention below was even remotely true, I think the
local
> > > newspapers and the local radio stations would have been all over the
> story
> > > and this forum in turn would have again bemoaned the media for its
> > constant
> > > UC bashing.  Obviously, I cannot say with 100% certainty that
something
> > like
> > > this did not happen but I would be very careful to believe such a
rumor.
> > > J. Keith Wedinger
> > > Senior Software Developer
> > > Sterling Commerce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Sorge [mailto:address@hidden
> > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:03 AM
> > > To: address@hidden
> > > Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts
> > >
> > > I completely disagree.  I think Bobbit prepares better then you think,
> and
> > > would be starting if there wasn't a third year system player in front
of
> > > him.  Huggins mentioned right before Bobbit quit the team, that he was
> > > trying to find more minutes for him, what does that say?   I don't
hear
> > him
> > > saying that about players like Hollman, and Flowers.
> > >
> > > One other thing, I have kinda been biting my lips on for the past few
> > weeks,
> > > maybe Brian can shed some light on for me.  I hate to be the igniter
of
> > > rumors, but I heard that Chuck Mayschock said that the real reason
that
> > Tony
> > > Bobbit quit the team earlier this season was because of an altercation
> at
> > a
> > > nightspot while with Field Williams.  Supposedly someone sucker
punched
> > > Field, and Tony did nothing to step in for his "friend".  After the
team
> > > found out, they gave him a hard time, and rightfully so, after which
he
> > > quit.  I never did buy the playing time argument, and his "dad" said
> that
> > > was only part of the reason.  Also the timing was very peculiar, and
the
> > > punishment was non-existent.  Perhaps you cannot speak on this
publicly
> > > Brian, and that is understandable, but am I completely up in the night
> on
> > > this one?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "dfairchild" <address@hidden>
> > > To: <address@hidden>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:10 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts
> > >
> > >
> > > > I cannot understand the logic of starting Bobbitt over Field.  It
> > appears
> > > to
> > > > me that Tony has not figured out what it takes for him to prepare
for
> a
> > > > game - either starting or coming off the bench. We want players who
> can
> > > play
> > > > a full 40 minutes, but it seems Tony needs some time (2, 3, 5
minutes)
> > to
> > > > get into a rhythm?  I think that is unacceptable at Division 1.
> Further,
> > > do
> > > > we really want to reward him for his lack of preparation by starting
> > him?
> > > > When Tony puts up a poor shot early in the shot clock it is often
the
> > same
> > > > as a turnover - people are not in position to rebound, the other
team
> is
> > > off
> > > > and racing.  Would we accept Taron turning the ball over repeatedly?
> > > >
> > > > Lest I be interpretted as Bobbitt bashing, I like very much what
Tony
> > can
> > > > contribute to the team.  Like many has said, he brings unique
> dimensions
> > > to
> > > > the team particularly on the offensive end.  Wouldn't it be nice if
he
> > > could
> > > > do it on a consistent basis and not once a month?  I believe the
> > > > inconsistency lies is Tony's preparation; not whether he is starting
> or
> > > not.
> > > > I think this goes to mental toughness.
> > > >
> > > > Darryl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Schroeder, Tom [mailto:address@hidden
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:36 AM
> > > > To: Bearcat Basketball Forum (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: FW: [UC Basketball] Bobbitt, other UL thoughts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At one point after Tony missed a few shots, he was fouled and made
> both
> > > free
> > > > throws...I remember thinking that making these free throws would get
> him
> > > > into the rhythm.  I've seen Leonard do the same, when he makes a
> couple
> > of
> > > > early free throws, he gets into a groove shooting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I'm really happy about the effort and the win, but I'm still
not
> > > > sold on Bobbitt.  I just can't stand players that take bad shots,
and
> > Tony
> > > > took 3 or so before he got in the groove.  So, I think Tony needs
more
> > > > discipline, not more playing time.  Maybe Huggs should keep track of
> all
> > > > the bad shots that Tony takes, and make him run 10 laps for each bad
> > shot.
> > > > Don't worry about whether his shots go in or not, just hold him
> > > > accountable for bad shot selection.