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Re: Why to not throw in the towel



From: Jon Macomber
Date: 04 Feb 2003 - 02:33 AM EST

I agree that some "shaking up" might be helpful - the team isn't fulfilling
their potential. I am concerned with the perception that this is a "bad"
team and forgetting about the players who are still there working hard.
Perhaps some aren't working hard enough though according to Huggs. This is
still a good team!

And I completely understand about the venting - this has always been a great
place to rationally discuss (usually) such things - I know I've done my
share of venting here.

I'm not giving up, or pointing the finger at anyone else. I love what
Machock said at the end of the MU game - Depaul came back strong and it gave
them the confidence to beat the Cats in the rematch. Why not believe the
Cats comeback will help them get a game back when we play at MU?

Mr. Half full,

Jon M



----- Original Message -----
From: "richard l. kandell" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [UC Basketball] Why to not throw in the towel


Jon - I'm not sure anyone on the forum is "giving up" on this year, and
the
commentary on playing some of the other people is being made not only to
get
them ready for next year, but to change what has happened recently this
year. Candidly, we have beaten primarily a bunch of mediocre teams by
small
margins - for example look at the difference in the scores versus DePaul
at
our place, @ Marquette and @ Louisville. While we were at least getting
wins with Johnson, Holman, et al, there was no big apparent reason to
change
personnel policies. However, that has ceased as we've moved to the
difficult part of the schedule, and a number of people are philosophizing
about whether/when/how to use other players. In addition, it is helpful
that, assuming they are trying in practice, playing and giving the
"younger"
players some experience has an additional benefit which might be seen next
year. I doubt anyone on the forum is asking that Lenny Stokes be put on t
he
bench and forgotten about, nor are they saying to throw this season away.
Quite the contrary, I do believe that everyone is just venting their ideas
as to how the season can be saved. Fortunately for all of us, Huggins and
staff are a lot smarter when it comes to basketball then we are.

Richard K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Macomber" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: [UC Basketball] Why to not throw in the towel



A quick response to those who mentioned playing the young guys and get
them
ready for next year:

It would be quite an injustice to not only tell players "we're giving up
this season", but to tell a senior like Taron Barker "thanks for coming,
but
since you're a senior you're gonna sit more". Or even worse, tell Leonard
Stokes "Thanks for 3 1/2 years of playing for the university, but we're
throwing your senior season away to get ready for next year".

Or tell the UCATS members, the alumni, and ticket holders that we've given
up on the team, but next year should be great. Hey why doesn't every team
in div 1 with a losing record sit their seniors and play just next years
lineup?

If this was a professional franchise then I might agree that the long term
performance might improve by looking ahead now, but the university has an
obligation to compete to the standards of NCAA and student-athletes.
Integrity is the issue here, not the bottom line.

I definitely haven't given up on this good (not great) team. Plus,
Huggins
doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would give up at anything!


Jon M
















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